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kitstern Been Here Awhile
Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 218 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: V123.........I've had it! |
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ARGHHH. So now that I have this nifty Blue Snowball mic I'm thinking I'll be able to get auditions in faster and have more of a chance of actually having an audition heard on V123. I'm doing auditions as they come in on my laptop, recording in Sound Forge, they sound pretty good, and I'm usually one of the first 20 in. And all I've been getting are these emails saying "Thank you for your answer to posting #blah blah blah........", you know the one.
There has been enough talk on here about V123, the pros and cons, mostly the cons, so let's not rehash again. But I'm venting here.....I actually used to get work from this site, even when I wasn't one of the first 50 to post. I'm getting work in other places, so I know I don't stink at this. What is going on? I'm not cheap, but I'm not THAT expensive. Do you think it's a pricing thing? I just renewed my membership, and I have the sinking feeling I've wasted my money.
Woe is me, and pissed off is me. Is anybody here getting work from this site at any sort of a decent price? Jeeze Louise...........! _________________ Enjoy life, this is not a rehearsal.
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Charlie Channel Club 300
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 356 Location: East Palo Alto, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with you!
I think it's good to vent about it. Nothing like a good rant to get you straight to the bottle. I've progressed from tequila to Jim Beam!
Kevin got it right when he mentioned that the business model is wrong. There's no accountability and it is all on the talent.
I'm running Audacity through a sound card on my machine, thus I don't do Pro Tools, my vocal booth with good mic and a bounce to mp3. So, I've got a mic running to a mixer running to the soundcard, outside of the vocal booth. In other words, I can run directly to my sound card to v123's recorder or record in Audacity and save as MP3, and do a real fast on the upload.
Hasn't helped. I don't even read the "sorry Charlie" E-mails anymore. No need to waste more time.
Let's see the numbers here:
Signed up about 14 months ago ... and only renewed after receiving a "This one's for you!" It wasn't and didn't result in any work, at all. Here are the numbers. Incidentally, IV doesn't give 'em.
Answered: 1,232 (lots of "deep voices" -- my Formats 80-100 hz)
Deleted: 298
Expired: 475
Scored: 3 or 4 (I've actually lost count, the number is so small)
And, then, I got a note last Friday about an auditon I did several months ago. I guess I made the short list.
Did someone mention that a definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result?
I've had better luck going to gatherings of one type or another (art galleries are really cool), meeting people and other artists, drinking wine, eating cheeze and looking at great art. I scored one gig after jamming with a piano player who also happened to be a VP at a company. Did I mention I didn't have to pay to play?
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donrandall Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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I made the mistake of giving them my money - and I did pick up a little work, and one contact did turn out to be a very good recurring account.
But, considering the low ball Bozos out there looking for someone who sounds as good as Gene Hackman or James Earl Jones - and they're willing to pay as much as thirty or forty dollars if they must - I just decided I could make out a little better if I just went out and started picking up pop cans from along side the road. |
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tway12 Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: |
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I've been with v123 for about a month and have done probably 30 auditions. Haven't even gotten a "sorry charlie." NO responses at all. Does it even take awhile for a rejection? I got rejections much quicker in high school.  |
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Bailey 4 Large

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 4336 Location: Lake San Marcos... north of Connie, northwest of the Best.
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Re: V123.........I've had it! |
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kitstern wrote: | ... And all I've been getting are these emails saying "Thank you for your answer to posting #blah blah blah........", you know the one. |
WoW!!!! You actually get responses! How cool is that!!!?
Just a thought... Is the V123 fee considered a business loss on your income taxes? _________________ "Bailey"
a.k.a. Jim Sutton
Retired... Every day is Saturday, except Sunday.
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allensco Flight Attendant

Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 823 Location: Alabama, USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: me too dammit |
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I'm with you on this one Kitzie! I've been with V123 for almost a year. NO work at all. Only ONE thank you note and one "we like your sound" note. I will not be renewing my membership. Same result for me on Interactive Voices...except no responses at all...not even a thank you note. Not renewing there either. |
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: Re: V123.........I've had it! |
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Bailey wrote: | kitstern wrote: | ... And all I've been getting are these emails saying "Thank you for your answer to posting #blah blah blah........", you know the one. |
WoW!!!! You actually get responses! How cool is that!!!?
Just a thought... Is the V123 fee considered a business loss on your income taxes? |
Well, it's a business expense. Absolutely. It's on my list of deductions. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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Apageloman Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Quick Question Gang, exactly what is the cost associated with V123? nd I got a bunch of other intro questions too if someone is kind enought to field them. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11075 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: |
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$199 per year and then every day of that year posting pointless auditions. |
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Charlie Channel Club 300
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 356 Location: East Palo Alto, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:16 am Post subject: What Are You Doing for Fun this Year? |
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On a totally different subject from v123, I just got a newsletter from sting.com (I'm a Sting fan). Here's the schedule for his upcoming tour:
23/04/2006 Jazz Festival, Plymouth, Tobago
26/04/2006 Altos De Chavon, Dominican Republic
27/04/2006 Coliseo de Puerto Rico, San Juan, Puerto Rico
29/04/2006 'Tiger Jam' Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, USA
04/06/2006 Rock in Rio Festival, Lisbon, Portugal
06/06/2006 Luxol Parade Ground, Pembroke, Malta
10/06/2006 Tsirion Stadium, Limassol, Cyprus
12/06/2006 City Stadium, Nessebar, Bulgaria
14/06/2006 Kurucesme Arena, Istanbul, Turkey
16/06/2006 Terra Vibe, Athens, Greece
17/06/2006 Earth Theatre, Thessalonika, Greece
19/06/2006 Beogradska Arena, Belgrade, Serbia
20/06/2006 Sportarena, Budapest, Hungary
21/06/2006 Stadion Artmedia, Bratislava, Slovak Republic
23/06/2006 Piazza del Duomo, Milan, Italy (Free Concert)
25/06/2006 Piazza del Plebiscito, Naples, Italy (Free Concert)
27/06/2006 Les Nuits de Fourviere, Lyon, France
30/06/2006 Estadio Carlos Belmonte, Albacete, Spain
01/07/2006 Parque Natural de Gredos, Avila, Spain
03/07/2006 Sporting Club, Monte Carlo, Monaco
04/07/2006 Sporting Club, Monte Carlo, Monaco
05/07/2006 Theatre de la Cite, Carcassonne, France
07/07/2006 Bospop Festival, Weert, Holland
08/07/2006 TW Classic Festival, Werchter, Belgium
11/07/2006 Jazz Festival, Montreux, Switzerland
15/07/2006 Radhusparken, Aarhus, Denmark
17/07/2006 Koengen, Bergen, Norway
19/07/2006 Jazz Festival Romsdalsmuseet, Molde, Norway
21/07/2006 Jazz Festival Skeppsholmen, Stockholm, Sweden
22/07/2006 Jazz Festival Kirjurinluoto, Pori, Finland
24/07/2006 New Ice Arena, St. Petersburg, Russia
26/07/2006 Olympiski, Moscow, Russia
I would love to go to Portugal, Spain or the Montreus Jazz Fest (anybody been there?) or maybe even Denmark. I just know the parties are going to be great!
Alas, it looks like Las Vegas will be about the only possibility!
What's on your dream list for fun? _________________ Charlie |
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anthonyVO 14th Avenue
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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kitstern wrote: | What is going on? I'm not cheap, but I'm not THAT expensive. Do you think it's a pricing thing? |
Remember in "Good Will Hunting" where Williams' character tells Damon's character, "It's not your fault" - well, here's one to you, kit, "it's not your fault... it's not your fault... IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT." Really it isn't. Not a pricing thing. Not a talent thing. It's just the way it is.
tway12 wrote: | I've been with v123 for about a month and have done probably 30 auditions. Haven't even gotten a "sorry charlie." NO responses at all. Does it even take awhile for a rejection? I got rejections much quicker in high school.  |
even if it's not v123, most of your auditions should be done and forgotten about. even in the "real" world, 99 times out of 100 you won't hear a word if they don't choose you or you don't get called back for a 2nd audition.
-Anthony |
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Spacegypsy Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I actually prefer NOT to have a "thanks but no thanks" notification from V123. I do the audition, I forget about it. In fact, it irritates me a bit to get them. If there was an option to turn them off I would. |
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Spacegypsy wrote: | I actually prefer NOT to have a "thanks but no thanks" notification from V123. I do the audition, I forget about it. In fact, it irritates me a bit to get them. If there was an option to turn them off I would. |
Me too. Most annoying. Auditions are part of the game. Do 'em, and forget about 'em. It's like bad Karma coming back to bite you in the arse. We should have a "Well, screw you!" reply button  _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
Skype: andrew.hadwal1
Although I have a full head of hair, I'm quite ribald. |
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Hart Assistant Asylum Chief

Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 2107 Location: Foley, AL
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billelder Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Drew!
Quote: | We should have a "Well, screw you!" reply button |
LOL!!!!!!! That's the same way I avoided being on our church Vestry! |
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