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12 POINT, ALL UPPERCASE, DOUBLE-SPACED

 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: 12 POINT, ALL UPPERCASE, DOUBLE-SPACED Reply with quote

This used to be the convention for copy; now I get a lot of single-spaced, mixed-case stuff. I can convert the copy to all uppercase with the click of a mouse, but if there's also a "Video" column, everything gets offset and I have to manually realign all the text. Does this bother anyone else, and how do you deal with it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I frankly hate all-uppercase text. It's hard to decode words in advance because you can't see the word-shapes.. .but single-spaced text for VO is ridiculous! I'll always add space for script marking, if I get the script in e-mail.
I hope to God you're not being presented with single-spaced text at a studio!

When I've got an audio/video script, I re-block the audio text-- and if I get a script in an Excel format, I transfer the text to a Word doc to block it.


edited to replace missing words. dang-- getting up early on Saturdays should be against the law.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - I try to stay away from ALL-CAPS as well, since we read by recognizing word shapes so even if something is mssipelled Wink we can still read it without problems.

Anyway - when I have video/SFX cues, I cut & paste it myself into Excel as well.

Single space is a crime against voice-over artists Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old radio guys ... sheesh ... RIP AND READ from the newswire machine - ALL CAPS WAS ALL IT COULD DO.

Bless the days when that went away - when everything is capitalized, you don't know what IS SUPPOSED to be capitalized.

I used to do the opposite - I'd highlight all the caps and turn it into sentence case, but then I had to go in a figure out what was capitalized before I did that and that took time, so I just live with it when it comes in all caps. But try to "edumacate" my clients to use upper and lower case.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh - and on the single space part of your issue - highlight both columns and double space the video side too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:

I hope to God you're not being presented with single-spaced text at a studio!

You'd be surprised! And I'm in a so-called major market! But single--space (and less than 12 point) happens mostly at the smaller houses. I like to just read the copy from the computer monitor when I can, and that makes it a little tough.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All caps all the time in TV news copy. First on the computer screen as your writing, proofreading and editing, then on the TelePrompTer as you read.

I don't prefer it, but I don't have a choice -- hence, I've gotten used to reading any and all sizes, cases, fonts...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not anymore! TelePrompTers can display upper and lower case. They take Word documents or text files. I teach a Media Performance Class at City College and as old as our prompte is, it has that feature. Have you ever asked the person who loads the material what they do? Perhaps they are typing everything in ALL CAPS, not realizing that they don't have too?

And a manual prompter I used a few years ago for a long training program for Cessna dragged paper along a little conveyor belt - no computer - so it projected whatever was on the paper onto the screen for reading, so that was upper-lower case capable too.

Let us know if we need to take up a collection for a new prompter for the station. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connie,

Oh, our prompter system does all you say and more (underlining, bold, hilites importing .doc files, yes!)....NOW, get all the other talent at the station to change with me, and you'll be a master psychologist. The standard is still all caps, and changing that would require an act of God. I continue to try....

BTW, I'll see you Thursday night at The Beach!

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