VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

mstaji

Didn't get any comments from you guys about the article... 53 views as of my writing this post and no comments in VO-BB

but in case those 53 people would like to read the conclusion article of Taji's Frankenstein Monster:

here is the link to it:

http://www.voiceemporium.com/archives/01/part-2-its-alive/
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bobsouer · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject:

Mahmoud,

Good stuff.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject:

A noble effort Mahmoud but I confess to losing the will to live less than half way through the article. I did quite like the criticisim of the contributors by name especially after you "honoured" them.

"Why didn't you do as you were asked you insolent pigs? But, thank you, I expected this, so hahahahah!" Laugh

On a serious note. I saw that some people liked the statistics provided by the P2P sites. I've no idea why as they are both completely accurate and totally useless.

mstaji · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject:

It's all about the statistics for some folks Mr. Banks.

I appreciate you finding the will to live and going through all 3000 some words.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject:

I know what you mean about statistics and so do the sites. They are designed to distract people from the fact they are not getting enough work but with the statitics at least they know why or THINK they know why ....They don't really.

The most important statistic would be "how much did the top earning voice get from work on ABCVO.com?" You'll either get a confidentiality excuse or a competitor excuse. Why not apply the same "excuse" to the other stats? Because they're useless, that's why.

Deirdre · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject:

Taji, my dear—

People don't reply if they have nothing to say!
I don't have anything to add because I don't use pay-to-play sites at all and have nothing to bring to the table.

It's possible that the 53 views you got were from people who are satisfied with the P2Ps, don't have a clue how to improve them if they aren't satisfied, or, as in my case, have nothing to offer.

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mstaji · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject:

makes sense... or they could be old horror movie buffs.
I know established folks like yourself have no need for the P2Ps Deirdre... in my case looking for an international audience requires me to use these sites... (because 99% of my work is Arabic VO).
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject:

And I'm afraid some of us may have withheld comment simply because these topics have been beaten to death.
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject:

Agree with Lee. Plus the P2P sites already have a business model that works for them, so what's the point of hashing out what would make them better? It's not like they're going to change.
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paddyo · CM Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 975 Location: New York City

I agree with Lee and Kafer and Banksey. And tonight I will be experimenting with coffee and that blog post. Don't wake me.

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mstaji · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: Try, Try, Try Again

Deirdre · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:03 am Post subject:

I applaud your labors, my friend.
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject:

Just to be clear, my "beaten to death" comment was not in any way a suggestion that you not persue this; it merely an explanation of why I (and a apparently a few others) have not chimed in on the subject.
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mstaji · Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: The Clarification

Thank you Lee for the Clarification. So far 3 out of the 4 major P2Ps have confirmed reading the articles and receiving the message. 2 of them (vplanet and bodalgo) have participated in the discussion.

I know voices.com are currently moving to their new offices (via voxmarkatising) and am yet to hear from them.

I'll try to get in contact with Steven Lowell from V123 today and see his bosses reaction.

Methinks them be not bad results... for now.
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Gregory Best · Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject:

I applaud your effort. For the P2P's it is all about the money. One claimed 10,000 voices. Multiply that by $300 and it is 3 million a year from talent only. They have other revenue streams as well.

I too think it is a bad biz model. But why would they consider change when they get suckers to pay?

Somone on your blog said they should be called online agencies. But they are not. They don't work for you. They get paid whether or not they get you work. A real online agency similar in concept to the brick and motar version woiuld be nice. Good luck but I think you are wasting your time presenting you info to the P2P's.
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