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KaseyKruz
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:18 am Post subject: For the RE-20 Fans |
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Me likey likey
MSRP: $499.95 with an estimated street price of $299.00 USD.
http://www.electrovoice.com/re320/
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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For some reason Darth Vader's theme kicked into my head....
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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sure looks cool. I notice that the RE320 shows a frequency response of:
30 Hz - 18,000 Hz (kick curve)
45 Hz - 18,000 Hz (general curve)
The RE20 is 45 Hz - 18,000 Hz
The 320 is 2oz lighter than the RE20.....
I wonder if the "personality switch" in the kick-drum position would give the mic a bit more of the deep end that the RE20 is missing.
http://www.electrovoice.com/sitefiles/downloads/LIT000355rev1.pdf
If it hits the streets in the $300 range, I might try one out!
Darn cool looking, though.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| With all the mic possibilities out there, I'm still failing to see the point of the EV dynamics (re-20, re-27, etc.), and I've had them both at one time or another. Just seems like (unless you are doing radio-ish broadcast type stuff) there are so, so many other better choices out there. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| captain54 wrote: | | (unless you are doing radio-ish broadcast type stuff) |
Yep. Exactly what I do.
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KaseyKruz
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| glenspot wrote: |
Yep. Exactly what I do. |
Me too
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think anyone ever complained about Paul Harvey's sound.
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Mike Sommer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I did.
The reason the RE20 is in radio is because it's hard to pop, it has a ton of proximity effect for those how love the sound of there voice, and off axis rejection to reduce room noise so the stanton owner didn't have to treat the rooms. What station owner doesn't like cost savings?
Other than that, it's an buzzy, fuzzy and obnoxious sounding mic.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Sommer wrote: | I did.
Other than that, it's an buzzy, fussy and obnoxious sounding mic.. |
I disagree. But, that's ok.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike Sommer wrote: | I did.
The reason the RE20 is in radio is because it's hard to pop, it has a ton of proximity effect for those how love the sound of there voice, and off axis rejection to reduce room noise so the stanton owner didn't have to treat the rooms. What station owner doesn't like cost savings?
Other than that, it's an buzzy, fussy and obnoxious sounding mic. |
Wow, that feels like an anger filled post. I couldn't disagree more on most points, except for the of axis rejection and that it's hard to pop. I can guarantee though, if you dont have room treatment, you will notice in the recording. As far as buzzy, maybe if you drop it a few times and dunk it in a bucket of water. Fussy, it couldn't be any more forgiving. Obnoxious sounding, only if the user is obnoxious sounding.
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I think Mike means "fuzzy" not "fussy"
the fact that that mic is fuzzy and buzzy is really not up for debate. Other than broadcast its main use is to mic a kick drum, for cris sake. I always thought it was interesting that Stevie Wonder's mic of choice was an Re-20 for awhile, but then again the guy couldn't see the mic so he could have been behind it and it might have picked up his pipes. |
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Gear is such a personal thing and battling it out here or elsewhere is usually unproductive. That being said, I bet if any of the RE-20 (or 27) users tried a condenser with a similar price tag and provided an A-B comparison with the RE-20, 4 out of 5 of us would prefer the condenser.
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KaseyKruz
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| captain54 wrote: | I think Mike means "fuzzy" not "fussy"
the fact that that mic is fuzzy and buzzy is really not up for debate. |
Not up for debate? Uh ..OK, if you say so ...
| Quote: | | Other than broadcast its main use is to mic a kick drum, for cris sake |
That's a mis-informed statement. The RE 20 is a great all purpose mic that's been used for Vocals on many an album, plenty of VO work, countless studio applications mic'ing instruments, not to mention many, many Major, Large, Medium, Small, and unrated radio markets. I highly doubt that a New York or LA radio Station would need to skimp on a mic or choose a mic that would lessen the cost of adding acoustic treatment like an unrated am station in Podunk would.
There's a reason the mic is a mainstay and a go to mic in many situations. The off axis rejection is great in a studio setting to prevent bleed over from other performers or instruments, and that's just scratching the surface.
As far as Stevie Wonder, his ears were far more tuned to subtle sounds and nuances than yours will ever be due to his blindness, so I think I'd take his cue over yours any day. If a musical genius likes the sound of the RE 20, how can you argue that?
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| KaseyKruz wrote: | | Obnoxious sounding, only if the user is obnoxious sounding. |
Yeah, that's my problem. No matter how good of a mic I use, I still sound like a moron! LOL
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| JTVG wrote: | | I bet if any of the RE-20 (or 27) users tried a condenser with a similar price tag and provided an A-B comparison with the RE-20, 4 out of 5 of us would prefer the condenser. |
THat would depend on the users application, I think. For what I do... fast turn around radio commercials, radio imaging, and somewhat short-form instructional video narration scripts... Plus, sometimes I have several mics open in the same room to accomodate multiple voice scripts...The RE20 is fantastic!
Additionally, because of the fast turnaround we record, edit, mix with music and email the audio all in one sitting. That means there are computers (fan noise), counter tops & flat screen monitors (hard surfaces) all in the room with us.
All that being said, I've found that the pattern and pickup of a condenser mic is too much for the room we're in. While the sound quality and sensitivity would be perfect in a room with perfect acoustics....that's not our situation... nor is it required for what we do.
It really comes down to having the best mic for the application.
The superbowl comes to mind. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman wear headset mics. Why? Afterall, a large diaphram condenser would sound better, be clearer, and would bring out the delicate characteristics of their voices. They use headset mics because it's what the application calls for. I use the RE20 and Senheiser 421 because they sound great, have good off-axis rejection, and are forgiving when you're bellering out a 38 seconds worth of copy that HAS to fit into a 30 second window.
Final thought.... When (and if) I begin to seek out clients that pay top dollar....I'll set myself up in a professionally designed silent room with a U87 and bask in its quality.
Wow, long post. I need a nap!
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