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Bruce
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Another reason to kiss Twitter goodbye... Reply with quote

...or never pucker up to Twitter in the first place.

If you tweet about a TV show you saw, advertisers can now put ads for the products advertised on that show into your Twitter feed, so you'll get hit twice.

They know about you and what you do. They will sell to you wherever you go.

Here's the explainer vid if you really care to see it: http://youtu.be/Lzxlo6_AkF0

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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are just months away from the kind of advertising that went on in minority report.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotta tell ya, if you fear this sort of big brother thing, get rid of your DVR as well. Data is gathered from everything these days.

That said, the benefits from Twitter far outweigh any privacy issues. Use it, but use it wisely. We are now living in a time where we can do our own PR that used to cost 2-5 grand a month. Don't get me wrong, I still hire my own publicist from time to time. But if more actors were more savvy with social networking, and used it to promote in smarter way, rather than vanity postings of auditions and bookings, they might see their career jump to that next level.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true. In fact, we can surely capitalize from all the big brother action. I am personally willing to give up some privacy to more effectively market myself.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never used Twitter or logged on to it. I AM a pretty avid Facebook user, and often wonder about the time-suck it imposes on me. We can easily fritter away most of our working days doing nothing but reading, or posting, relatively useless tidbits nowdays. (I almost typed "info" instead of tidbits, but there isn't much information really involved).

What scares the crap out of me, though, is it isn't just Twitter, or facebook. For example, yesterday I was on ebay, then amazon.com, looking for cycling goggles (which I ordered from Amazon). Next thing I know, every site I go to, I'm seeing ads along the side advertising cycling goggles!!!

Face it, every sentence we type, every site we hit, is being monitored and immediately entered into some database somewhere where it is instantaneously spat back out as a 'sales opportunity'.

Personally, I hate it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason Huggins wrote:
Very true. In fact, we can surely capitalize from all the big brother action. I am personally willing to give up some privacy to more effectively market myself.


I, personally, am not. What's next??
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can't really escape advertising -- and considering the line of work we are in, I don't necessarily think of advertising a bad thing -- so I'd rather have ads presented to me that are relevant to what I have expressed interest in than just some random blather. That's really what the technology is for, and I don't have big problem with it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's annoying is I find I have to use an annonymizer when I look up pronunciations of medical terminology for all the medical narration I do. If I don't, I get hit with marketing for every disease on the planet. Seriously, I've often considered that if insurance companies are looking at that data they would consider me uninsurable - solely based on my research habits.

If anyone else were looking at it, they'd nominate me for the Keith Richards longevity award.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee Gordon wrote:
We can't really escape advertising -- and considering the line of work we are in, I don't necessarily think of advertising a bad thing


I understand where you're coming from, Lee, but for me personally, I do so little v/o for advertising that it's almost a non-issue. Probably 90% of my work is non-advertising, such as corporate training, safety videos, e-learning, motivational and awards ceremonies and videos, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word ... Gmail.

Tracks everything. Knows everything.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit of this technology I don't understand is whatever eBay uses. It frequently sends me e-mails with suggestions for things I might wish to buy. It's based on eBay searches I have done so, yes, they are things I have shown an interest in. However, eBay should also know which of those things I have purchased on eBay and therefore, perhaps don't need to shop for anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are tracked. It's far too late to stop this train... it left the station long ago. We have already given our collective approval (despite a small chorus of educated voices). We've lapped-up the "free" products from Google et al and wonder about their business model. The truth is, if you can't identify the product they're selling and how they're making money... then you are the product.

As far as advertising is concerned... I like to think I'm cynical enough to be fairly immune... but savvy enough to understand that it's one of the elements of mass-market capitalism (like it or not, the system under which most of us here live). I would actually prefer to receive targeted advertising... if I have to be exposed, try to sell me a hard drive, not a packet of soap-powder.

However, the "nattering nabobs of negativism" (as they are disparagingly labeled) raise important flags... Melissa nailed it with her comments about heath insurance. There's a fine line here... personal information tracked for advertising purposes, and the same data used for denial of health care... and, in a lot of ways more worrying, the weekly stories about the three-letter-acronym agencies fighting through the courts for the right of access to this data without a warrant.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bish said what I was trying to say -- except, he said it in English.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee Gordon wrote:
Bish said what I was trying to say -- except, he said it in English.


Queen's English, even.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to see scary Big Brother stuff, research the Xbox One.

Since their conference, all Microsoft has been doing is damage control. And speaking of advertisements- You get achievements by using certain products. (Achievements are mini in-game things that give you a gamer score. They're to add extra fun to a game) So basically, hold up your bag of doritos to the camera (that's always on and listening because it has a voice activation to turn on) and you'll get gamer points.

The more information they release about it, the more surreal it seems.
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