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Tom Test
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 Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:17 am Post subject: Have you tried talking up ISDN alternatives to studios? |
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So who here has tried talking up ISDN alternatives like Source Connect and ipdtl to recording studios who currently use ISDN? And what reaction have you gotten? I just dumped ISDN myself 2 weeks ago, so I'm thinking about sending an email blast intended to educate ISDN studios about how great the alternatives are. Your experiences with this sort of discussion would be very helpful.
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Deirdre
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IP DTL is getting the most attention among the producers I know.
I bring it up to all my ISDN clients.
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Tom Test
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Deebs, good to know you're on it! What sort of reaction have you gotten so far?
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Lance Blair
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I talk up ipDTL especially to new clients when working out how we are going to communicate. Everyone likes it so far, and having a Link+ account makes it easier.
A German studio wanted me to audition live for a gig, and I suggested ipDTL. I didn't get the job, but I got to test it out with them and they liked both ipDTL and me (even though the director picked someone else). It's a good way to show
a.) You know what you're doing
b.) You are willing to find solutions for your clients
c.) You are easy to work with
As long as the discussion is appropriate, it can't hurt.
And now that ipDTL has just done a massive upgrade with Chat, Script Editor, Mixing, and Recording (!!!) if they can stay affordable they've got a terrific production tool.
I'll be available 10-12 EST Monday to test out all the new bells and whistles if any VO-BB folks are interested. 
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Lance Blair
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Philip Banks
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No. But interestingly enough I did a session with a studio in Germany today using https://sessionlinkpro.com/ which is Google Chrome based. He asked me to do it that way and I earned $620 for my trouble.
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Bish
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... and this is the way it has to go. I think it may be a little naive of us to think we can convince studios to use alternatives. They have to find out by themselves. We can help with the awareness, certainly, but ultimately they will be the ones that drive it. We should leave the sales pitch to the purveyors of such things otherwise we risk muddying the waters of a straightforward business relationship.
Of course, this depends on your relationship with the client... such conversations may be appropriate. List your capabilities and have the options in your armoury.
Tom, I'd be reluctant to send a blast with the prime purpose of "educating" the studios. Maybe a general email blast update (as some people do periodically) that mentions you are now equipped with new options. Again, considering the relationship between most VOs and their clients (customer/vendor) there's a fine line between raising awareness (a good thing) and educating (which could be seen as arrogant and inappropriate).
This is becoming a hot issue in the US where recently Verizon have said "no more installs" and AT&T have (in some cases) raised the monthly to over $500. People are genuinely worried. It's a strange mix though... those with ISDN are seeing a revenue stream threatened, and those without are seeing it as a great leveler where everyone can have a good quality remote IP link.
The dust has been kicked up, but it has yet to settle.
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Lee Gordon
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This morning, I played golf with a guy from ESPN who said, "You have ISDN at your house, right? Our engineers are saying it's on the way out." That was one of the first instances I can recall, hearing anyone express that sentiment, other than somebody who doesn't have ISDN or can't get it.
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bobbinbeamo
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Many studios have long-term contracts with the telcos. When they lapse and rates skyrocket, more will take notice, I believe. I know of one studio in particular that had to move, and now cannot get ISDN installed at their new location.
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whalewtchr
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Internet = Viruses
Many studios might be concerned about the potential for viruses.
In my old radio life, no one was allowed to access the internet with "studio" computers, there usually was a dedicated computer to access the internet.
Not sure the big guns are willing to risk it with browser based codecs, but I could be wrong.
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Lee Gordon
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Especially if they're still running Windows XP.
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Philip Banks
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FINAL WARNING!
STOP IT! |
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Bruce
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| whalewtchr wrote: | ....no one was allowed to access the internet with "studio" computers, there usually was a dedicated computer to access the internet.
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Which is something you can do with IPDTL and all these other services. Create the audio in the "unconnected" computer and feed it live through an audio input to the Internet connected computer.... and Bob's your uncle. Viruses can't claw their way into your system through audio cabling.
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Philip Banks
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As Dr Virus (really Mr Taylor who runs the Fun Fair) would say.
"........and I would have got away with it were it not for those pesky cables!" |
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jasbart
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Have you tried talking up ISDN alternatives to studios? |
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| Tom Test wrote: | | So who here has tried talking up ISDN alternatives like Source Connect and ipdtl to recording studios who currently use ISDN? |
I went on a crusade some 7 years ago and attempted to sway the thinking of the various ISDN studios I was working with to at least try Source Connect. Admittedly Source Connect was in its infancy then and I was turned down flat mostly, with only a few brave studios ready to try something new. I ended up with the feeling that maybe I should stick to what I do best, voiceovers, and quit trying to guide the studios into brave new worlds.
So seven years later I haven't gone out on a new quest, but I've noticed something different in the way I'm communicating with the studios. Most of the production houses I work with request that talent inform them when they will be unavailable for voice work. I had always sent out a one line email stating the dates I'd be away, that I'd be taking a road rig for self produced audio including auditions, but that I'd have no access to ISDN. NOW I send the same one-liner, but add the fact that I do have Source Connect. Call it a gentle nudge.
Jim
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