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Bob Bergen CM
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 981
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:24 pm Post subject: A word of advice |
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As I've posted this before, mentioning online what one makes/earns is vulgar. But it's also detrimental to one's career. In the past two weeks I know of 3 actors who got in trouble for this. One posted just in conversation their average monthly income, and a long time client saw this and used the info as leverage to to lower their fee. Two more were dropped by agents for posting financial info. There's never a reason to post what one earns unless you are desperate to brag or in need of attention. Keep your earnings to yourself! |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Pick your audience and specifics are never a good idea. I often make a business point which is income related (the idea of a business is to make a profit) and am happy to back it up with numbers. The points are general and are more about the audience as opposed to "me, me, me" MASSIVE YACHT buying numbers. The bragging fools no one and is counter productive.
What you say, where and why is important and also be mindful that some people are too stupid to understand what you may mean. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Worth adding stuff to this thread as what Bob wrote was worth reading.
So here's another "word of advice"
Your demos - https://soundcloud.com/philip-banks/ouch |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Oooh, I liked the processing.
Discussing wages in a corporation is bad enough - never mind as a freelancer! Anyone can win or lose their best clients overnight. Just keep going...
I believe it was a smart guy who put it best: "Think on!" _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I come up with precise and impressive numbers all the time. In the interest of full disclosure the currency I use is Indian Rupees ..Nyahhh, ya don't think I quite the Mr Big-Shot now do ya? |
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Karyn OBryant Cinquecento

Joined: 23 Jul 2013 Posts: 561 Location: Portlandia-adjacent
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Agreed, Bob. It is in poor taste. The only folks who need to know your income are you, your partner, the union, and the IRS (or non-US equivalent). _________________ * * * * * * * * * *
Pretending to be other people since 1986.
www.karynobryant.com |
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:59 am Post subject: |
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When asked, my standard answer is that I earn enough to pay the bills and have enough left over to have some fun.
... and that is all anyone needs! _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:18 am Post subject: |
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In the general context of this thread mine is usually "I muddle though". If I'm talking, or as I've done on a few occasions, worked with groups or individuals on the subject of building a VO business I do go into detail as I wouldn't tell people to do something I hadn't done and made work for myself. Well, I wouldn't would I? I'm not a coach.
Join me for "How to sustain a happy marriage" only $595 plus hat allowance. |
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Scott Pollak The Gates of Troy

Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 1903 Location: Looking out at the San Juan mountains
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Quite a long time ago, late 2014, I posted this link which is germain to this topic:
http://www.financialsamurai.com/never-tell-anyone-how-much-money-you-make/ _________________ Scott R. Pollak
Clients include Pandora, NPR Atlanta, Wells Fargo, Cisco, Humana, Publix, UPS, AT&T, HP, Xerox and more.
www.voicebyscott.com |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm afraid I'm ambivalent regarding this. If someone wants to tell (an accurate figure) I guess it's their right. If anything it can give others an idea of what's possible in this industry and a goal to go after.
I'll never give specifics, but I will say that last year I earned enough for a yacht (rental) and plan to spend a whole week(end) cruising along the coast (of Portland).
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Gregory Best The Gates of Troy

Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 1853 Location: San Diego area (east of Connie and south and east of Bailey)
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Scott, that is unless you work for a government agency in California and find you income, benefits, and eventually retirement gov't income posted on a public website. _________________ Gregory Best
greg@gregorybest.com |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11076 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Was it a MASSIVE YACHT? I've stopped buying them as I need to get some this weight off. My doctor, (yes he is mine, I own him) says loCal high fibre Yachts are no excuse. I have had to give up fish n chips and MASSIVE YACHTS. The wine? NEVER!!!!
Do you know how much I earned this morning? Enough to buy a MASSI .... Oh, wait, not allowed to do that any more! |
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Scott Pollak The Gates of Troy

Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 1903 Location: Looking out at the San Juan mountains
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I've earned enough to be happy.
Oh. Wait. Money doesn't buy happiness!
(And how true that is!) _________________ Scott R. Pollak
Clients include Pandora, NPR Atlanta, Wells Fargo, Cisco, Humana, Publix, UPS, AT&T, HP, Xerox and more.
www.voicebyscott.com |
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I earned enough to buy a throw cushion (just the one) that would lie on the couch in the MASSIVE YACHT's stateroom.
Hey! It's a start! _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
Smoke me a kipper... I'll be back for breakfast.
I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls... I will not feed the trolls. |
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10531 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:19 am Post subject: |
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as of 12:19 pm carterville standard time, monday mar. 21, i have earned absolutely nothing so far this week.
i am currently unemployed.
all that will change by 3:00 pm carterville standard time as i will be working then. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
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