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Do you hear clicks? I hear mouth noise, nothing else, but an engineer insists there is something wrong with his equipment.
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Eddie Eagle · M&M Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 2393

I hear the clicks and slurps (quite a few too) but nothing that stands out at all that would be technical in nature. Just the voice. I don't see anything out of the ordinary on spectral either.

vkuehn · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:54 pm Post subject:

Oooooh! It is not often we get to look over the shoulder of The Master at Work, and even less often would we get to offer an answer.

Just for fun I ran it through de-crackle and de-click in Izotope RX5 standard and that cleaned it up a bit. (I only applied them very lightly which usually does good things if I have a recording with that type of... of... scratchy-ness?

You say the engineer thinks he has a hardware problem. Maybe he has a process problem. Has the file been "squooshed and muooshed" significantly?*** Could the artifacts be a result of bad processing choices... or a failing component that is part of the processing routine?

I'll sleep better when you get the bottom of this and share with us the REAL problem. Uhhhh.. you will share... won't you?

*** just to spice up the conversation: I vote that poor squoosing and muooshing are the culprit.

Jason Huggins · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:49 am Post subject:

Is he thinking that the popping and clicking are a result of equipment or is it something else?

There is a pretty steady hum throughout (though only audible if you normalize some silence) at around 240-260Hz and 360-380Hz. But I doubt that is failing equipment. I'd guess it is more about the environment. But at any rate, it isn't worth worrying about IMO.

The talent has really predictable mouth noise so that isn't equipment. You can really hear the consistency in the tag section, over and over in the word "better." You can also hear definite mouth noise in sections with multiple 'f' sounds.

I don't hear equipment failure though.

todd ellis · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:04 am Post subject:

plain & simple - all i hear is mouth noise. like jason said - very consistent throughout.
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Bish · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:32 am Post subject:

What Todd said. The spluttery "F" sounds are a dead giveaway (and my own personal nightmare). I can't see any technical issues on my cursory inspection. The awful crap on the tags may have been improved by actually pronouncing the word "better" as "better"... rather than "bedder" with more relaxed mouth posture ... but that's just me being a Brit.

Side question... was this recorded to try and track down and identify the problem? I'm curious as to why there are soooo many takes!
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georgethetech · Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:14 am Post subject:

In Brit that would be "bettah" Smile

Sam's a seasoned VO in NYC, but we all have our bad days. He's bouncing this audio off another engineer for an opinion.
That said, I'm having him replace the Scarlett 2i2 he's using for A/D with an Audient iD22. I'm also going to re-route his signal path to go Avalon M5-Audient iD22-1202 VLZ when I'm there in June. Right now it's M5-1202VLZ-2i2, and it's been that way for many years.

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Bruce · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:15 am Post subject:

It's mouth noise to my ears. Not horrible but lots of tiny loose spittle noise.

I wish he'd take bigger deeper quieter breaths though. Two or three sharp draws per sentence is a bit much. But we weren't here to talk about that. My apologies.

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Foog · Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject:

Could it be possible that there is some sort of equipment glitch that is particularly sensitive to mouth noise? Because from where I sit, it sounds like it's mouth noise, but it also sounds like some extra bonus distortion or noise is being triggered by the mouth noise.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

It's mouth noise, but it's also sinus click at times.

It is pollen season after all, y'all.

Oh...but in the pause after "This is take two" I hear singing in the background. Weird.

Both right before and right after the words "Take Six" there is a high pitched voice saying "I hear it" Double-weird. Just before and after "Take Seven" there is just the voice saying "I". Or is that a weird resonating from his pipes???

Before and after "Take Nine" I hear the singing again...maybe this is weird noise coming from his breathing???

But I don't hear any of this bizarre noise between any of the other pauses. Only the slating of takes.
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