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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:45 am    Post subject: Adobe asks Audition users to take brief survey Reply with quote

If you use Adobe Audition, the company requests your participation in a very short survey. As it recognizes VO as one of the categories of users, when responding to the question about which online forums I frequent, I added vo-bb.com to the others I'd selected.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/adobeauditionsurvey?guid_sm=a0e752733f7d2f1a699f874664c43233
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Audition all the time. It's my go-to audio editor (I actually have the whole CC suite). However... it has one massive flaw which really screws-up my workflow. I've mentioned it to them before, and I mentioned it again now. It is (to me) one of the fundamental requirements of VO recording.

When recording a long piece (elearning, audiobook, whatever)... it's quite possible that you make an unnoticed error which becomes apparent on review (horror!)... or maybe there's a small correction or change from the client end. With audition you cannot drop into the wave edit screen, pick an insert point and record a couple of takes of the new line/correction... because it overwrites the existing timeline! With Twisted Wave, it neatly pushes the downstream audio to the side and inserts your corrections... a quick edit and that troublesome sentence/word/syllable is a thing of the past. I cannot do this with Audition and it means I have to save, re-open in TW, record, save, and go back to Audition (probably with terminal damage to my range markers). The only alternative in Audition is to past in a whole bunch of room tone to give some workspace. Not intuitive... and yes, I know I can work in multi-track mode and do all sorts of fancy stuff... but a simple drop-in in wave edit view is a pain.

Unless I've missed an inset/overwrite toggle setting somewhere that is Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I need to do what Bish described, I just leave the file open and create a new file, record the correction, select and copy it, switch to the original file, select the area I want to replace, and paste the new one in.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is exactly my point! It should be a "hit the button" solution (as it is with Twisted Wave)... not a "swing the rubber chicken around your head three times" solution! Any process that involves cutting and pasting (or any other workarounds) is far too many steps. It is far easier for me (for long form work) to actually use Twisted Wave for the initial record, proof, & edit process... then moving it into Audition for final edit, massage, de-whatevering and final prep.

If Adobe is now acknowledging the existence of VOs, then they need to stop me using another program to fulfill such a minor (but fundamental) editing task. They should aim to keep me in CC for everything.

... or maybe I should just make fewer mistakes with long-form Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate the cloud and want one price, no monthly subscriptions. The lie of Buy Now should read Lease Now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on what Dan-O said.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I need to make that kind of edit in waveform I just record wherever the playhead is, copy the take I like and then paste it over the existing. It would be cool to be able to highlight a section, record new and if it was longer it just replaced. You'd have to have your timing and read perfect though...no multiple takes or you'd be editing just as much as if you just copied and pasted.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+3 (or is it +4 since Todd double posted? Rolls Eyes) on what Dan-Q said. I HATE the monthly subscription model!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+5!
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pam wrote:
I HATE the monthly subscription model!


The precise reason I still use AA3
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Eagle wrote:
Pam wrote:
I HATE the monthly subscription model!


The precise reason I still use AA3

If I still didn't also have the frequent need to use Photoshop, I'd try like hell to revert to Audition version 5, which is what I started with a few years ago. The more people who find the subscription model acceptable, it will continue, and I fear other companies will follow suit.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm still running the CS6 suite and am clinging to it like grim death.
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago I went through a massive purge of, er... "extended trial software". Audition is my production weapon of choice, but I found I was using:
Audition
Premier
Lightroom
Photoshop
Bridge
... so the subscription model was the only practical way to go. The good thing is that you have access to a lot of other crap as well, and I've also found myself playing with a few of the other modules (After Effects, Illustrator, Character Animator, etc.) I hate the model as well... but it seemed like the right thing to do.
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