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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: "non-profit" so we can't pay!

Annoyance here: I see posts (mostly on craigslist) that say "we can't pay you because we're a non-profit". What does your profit status have to do with whether you can pay me? My folks church is non-profit, yet they have to pay their bills. The United Way is "non-profit", but you can bet they pay top dollar for the voices in the TV ads.

Just getting tired of this excuse.... ok, done ranting.
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Diane Maggipinto · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:59 am Post subject:

I worked for a public radio station here (and some of you Utah dwellers will know which) whose GM makes 180k+. Ick. I dont work for that shop anymore since it became increasingly difficult to ask for money on-air during pledge drives and maintain some modicum of integrity. Whew! Shoulda seen some of the emails I received personally. As if it was my unilateral decision to pay the GM waaaay too much coin.
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Yoda117 · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject:

Them: We can't pay you because we're "non-profit"

Me: I can't do a VO for you because I'm "non-debt"

It's one thing where you're helping a good cause, it's another where people use it to try and keep from paying.

NB: as a previous poster stated, non-profit doesn't mean they can't pay... but if you're dealing with someone using that excuse, ask to see their ID. States issue non-profit groups and legal entities tax identification cards for identity purposes (and yes, you have the right... in some states, the legal obligation to ask).
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject:

Yoda117 · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:

Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject:

Bruce · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:29 am Post subject:

Lots of charities pay for broadcast voice work and the union, and many non-union talent, give them a break and charge them for 13-weeks, but allow them to use the broadcast recording for a full year. Narrations are often done at half rate.

If it's a charity you admire and wish to support, I'd say feel free to donate your time. All others pay on the barrelhead. A discounted barrelhead, but a barrelhead nonetheless.

B

* I believe I may have set a new personal record for use of the word barrelhead in a single communication. Yep that did it. Just writing about it I've now used the word barrelhead four times.

No wait! That previous line makes it five times!

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Diane Maggipinto · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:05 am Post subject:

LOVE that word, and I did not know of it (save the obvious, top/bottom of said barrel)

bar·rel·head [bar-uhl-hed]
–noun 1. either of the round, flat sections that form the top and bottom of a barrel.
—Idiom2. on the barrelhead, in advance or on demand: They won't deliver the merchandise unless we pay cash on the barrelhead.
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[Origin: 1830–40; barrel + head]

On another note (read: threadjack), I have a word-a-day calendar and this one is swell, from yesterday:

man·sue·tude man-swi-tood, -tyood]
–noun mildness; gentleness: the mansuetude of Christian love.
n. Gentleness of manner; mildness

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[Origin: 1350–1400; ME < L mānsuétūdō tameness, mildness, equiv. to mānsué-, base of mānsuéscere to become tame, mild (man(us) hand + suéscere to become accustomed) + -tūdō -tude]
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Jeffrey Kafer · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:

dhouston67 · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:

Deebs has said it here before, but...

Bottom line: with the exception noted by Bruce, don't work for free unless everyone else involved is also going unpaid.
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