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BenWils
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe....after thinking about it....the 416 is a short range shotgun mic....and it is Philip Banks' favorite mic by the way...... Wink Wink Wink

Anyway, the phasing my be more so on the 416 since there is a lot more phase cancellation going on with the 416 than other mics?? The long cylinderical shaft and the "grill deal" on the sides of the mic are used to make the mic very directional....thus canceling out more sound from behind and on the sides of the mic. So this may be why using a metal screen pop-filter was making for some weird vocal recordings with the 416. I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't like any screen with my 416. They all made it muddy. So I position it somewhat like they do in the movies...at about a 45º angle down towards my mouth and 45º off to one side, about 9" away and then I read more or less straight forward. It's aimed right at my sweet spot (if you know what I mean) and I almost never pop it (if you know what I mean). Wink wink, nudge nudge.

A couple of local studios I go to like to point theirs slightly downward, from straight ahead at the bridge of my nose from about 10" away. It sounds OK but it's just a little weird to me to have its sound reception and the path of my voice not directly intersect somewhere.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben - You could be on to something.... One clarification though - my screen is foam, not metal. Not sure it makes a difference.

Bruce - Most guys seem to angle the 416 downward like you do. In fact, I'm the only one I know who almost talks directly into it. I tip it ever-so-slightly down so it points toward my chin/throat but never any more. Tried it last night at more of a harsher angle and my results weren't bad. Not quite as crisp though.

I need to sit down and do some more tests. One plus about a steeper incline and talking partly past the mic instead of directly into it is that the "P's" and Q's and such aren't as much of a pest.

I wonder how Philip uses his 416? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruce: i know what you mean.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im using the Steadman Proscreen 101 on both my Telefunken AK-47 and Sennheiser MKH-416 and it works awesome
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Diane,
I use a Stedman Proscreen 101 also with my Neumann TLM-193, and works great. It's washable. That alone is worth it. (slurp)
Really, I don't think I've ever NOT used a screen.
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