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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Tips on submitting a successful audition |
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I'm in the process of finding an animated character for a client's TV commercials and so I put the job up on the Work section here. Knowing that this was a fairly choosy client I thought I'd better expand my search and also went to V123 for the first time in about a year.
First let me say the VO-BB auditioners as a group are superior to the other group. I was able to choose 4 out of 15 VO-BBers to submit to the client, and got just 4 out of 55 people who auditioned on V123.
I will say the rating system V123 offers producers ("seekers") is a bit daunting considering I wear both hats. I started to rate people and then realized I'd be forever marking these people's permanent records , and it felt kinda creepy, so I stopped and just listened.
O.K., after listening to 70 auditions, let me be so bold as to offer tips on improving one's chances of making the cut. This applies more to several of the people that came through V123 as opposed to the pros from VO-BB by the way, but maybe there's something here that will inspire you:
Read the producer's comments on what they want and try to apply them to your audition. I know this sounds obvious, but in my description I used phrases like: "animated character, young, a talking sunbeam, not particularly feminine, young in spirit, perky". I couldn't believe how many audtioners used their everyday announcer voices. Not animated, not a character, not young or perky at all. Some of the women turned their femininity UP a notch instead of down.
What's with all the booping and beeping? A handful of auditions had two or three beeps in front of each take, just like they used to do 40 years ago when things were run live from tape (they'd cue things up by counting the beeps). Today it sounds just plain silly. It doesn't help.
If you feel you've got to watermark your audition, don't make it a really annoying noise. I heard a variety of beeps, boops, stop watches, crickets, music tones...some of them so loud it really ruined the audition.
Radio and ex-radio people, please turn down the compression. If you're doing a screaming car commercial demo, sure, leave it up, but it really takes away from what you really sound like on anything else. If your voice sounds like it's all squished into a piece of plastic tubing, that just isn't very appealing.
Make sure your audition's audio quality is good. A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics (tinny, no low end, popping the mic), yet their generic demo sounded all nicely produced. I heard lots of room noise on some and computer fans on others. Your audio has to sound technically professional if you want producers to trust that any audio they get from you will be usable.
I hope this helps anyone who needs it. The rest of you, you're sounding great!
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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The takeaway? Skip V123 and just come to us. We got your back.
Love to know who the 4 were from here you submitted, but that might not be appropriate. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10529 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics |
i had the exact same experience two weeks ago as a seeker on V123 --- so much so on one audition - i thought someone was playing a joke on me ... it was like fred & whatsername from another thread. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Yoda117 M&M

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2362 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition |
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Bruce wrote: |
Radio and ex-radio people, please turn down the compression. If you're doing a screaming car commercial demo, sure, leave it up, but it really takes away from what you really sound like on anything else. If your voice sounds like it's all squished into a piece of plastic tubing, that just isn't very appealing. |
Thank you. I've been saying the same thing as of late. Between that and all the folks who want to track their levels at -2dB. The standard is -12 - 14dB for a reason (and some of us track softer than that). If you can't tell... invest in a pair of outboard VU meters. It's worth the $.
Quote: | Make sure your audition's audio quality is good. A number of folks sounded like they were using $20 Radio Shack mics (tinny, no low end, popping the mic), yet their generic demo sounded all nicely produced. I heard lots of room noise on some and computer fans on others. Your audio has to sound technically professional if you want producers to trust that any audio they get from you will be usable. |
If I may be so bold... was than an overall issue, or did you find that more with the VO-BB, or the other site? If I had to take a guess I'd say it's more of an issue with the other site based on the stuff I've heard on their forums. It's an awesome point none the less, and a good reason that some of the folks on here and elsewhere go to such pains with their studio setups. _________________ Voiceovers by Gregory Houser
Philadelphia based Voice Actor
Blog - A man, a martini, and a lot of microphones
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TigerMitch Guest
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce:
I "second" your emotion (My Man, Smokey!).
Every audition I do...via agents or, direct...I send out technically perfect and, craft-wise, to the specs asked for. My thought process...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product!
And, if I don't think I can meet the requirements of the read, I don't do it!
Just my 2 cents...Mitch |
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Moe Egan 4 Large

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 4339 Location: Live Free or Die
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reminders Bruce. It was very thoughtful of you to take the time to post this for all...'specially for them to whom it applies. Yer Swell!  _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Yoda117 M&M

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2362 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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TigerMitch wrote: |
Every audition I do...via agents or, direct...I send out technically perfect and, craft-wise, to the specs asked for. My thought process...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product!
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I always find it amazing how many people think that they'll do just fine by putting forth their second best in an audition.
your competition isn't, so why would you?
More to the point, you're putting forth your second best. Don't they know that second place is the first loser? _________________ Voiceovers by Gregory Houser
Philadelphia based Voice Actor
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COURVO Even Taller Than He Seems On TV

Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 1569 Location: Vegas, Baby!
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's great info, Bruce...thanks!
I'd like to think a higher quality comes out of the VO-BB entries 'cause the chatter here leads to technically smarter, creatively more talented, and pragmatically more prepared auditioners than the average bear.
YMMV... but I'm proud to be here, and I think it's made a big difference in my approach to the biz.
CourVO _________________ Dave Courvoisier - Las Vegas, NV
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TheVoiceOfBob 14th Avenue

Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 1411 Location: Pittsburgher in the Carolinas
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed Dave.
Thanks Bruce for the window into the seeker side of things.
I may not read the instructions when I buy a new electronic toy, but I do read the requirements for a job audition. Sunny, young, perky not me on most days and DEFINITELY not during allergy season.
Now if anyone needs a phlegmy, COPD sounding voice, hurry up, I'll only be this way another week or so. _________________ Try to imagine a world where there is no such thing as hypothetical situations.
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Lizden A Zillion

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 8864 Location: The dark recesses of my mind
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bruce!
What a great reminder! Thanks for taking the time to post this...should be required reading for audition newbies...and a great refresher for working VOs!
And Mitch....
TigerMitch wrote: | ...I do the audition as if IT IS the final product! |
Yeah...like...DUH!
You'd think that would be the norm....but I guess not!
L. _________________ Liz de Nesnera O.A.V. ~ Livin' The VO Dream!
English/French Bilingual VO w/ ISDN
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Bailey 4 Large

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 4336 Location: Lake San Marcos... north of Connie, northwest of the Best.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce... Very good comparisons and observations.
I was one that wanted to send you a clip... through the VO-BB... but after I tried 3 or 4 times I realized that it just didn't sound like what you were looking for. Perhaps a few of those from V123 just audition for everything that comes down the Pike... not knowing that they are wasting their time AND the clients time. _________________ "Bailey"
a.k.a. Jim Sutton
Retired... Every day is Saturday, except Sunday.
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asnively Triple G

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition |
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Yoda117 wrote: | Between that and all the folks who want to track their levels at -2dB. The standard is -12 - 114dB for a reason (and some of us track softer than that). |
Did you know that awhile back V123 sent an email out to all their members asking them to normalize to -2? _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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louzucaro The Gates of Troy

Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1915 Location: Chicago area
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Which is RIDICULOUS since their system completely overloads the audio anyway and makes everything sound a bit icky. _________________ Lou Zucaro
http://www.voicehero.com
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Bruce, and thank you gang for caring to send the very best. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Tips on submitting a successful audition |
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asnively wrote: | Did you know that awhile back V123 sent an email out to all their members asking them to normalize to -2? |
You shouldn't normalize at all. Record at the correct volume from the start. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
Voice-overload Web comic: http://voice-overload.com |
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