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JBarrett
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What about the tendency of some to turn "day" into "dee" when speaking of days of the week? "Our annivershery was last Tuesdee." 
And then there's my dear wife, who chooses to add a "k" to the middle of "ancient", turning it into "aink-shent". 
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ccpetersen
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There's a tendency among some in my extended family (of ranchers and farmers) to say things like "I don't guess... " as in "I don't guess they know that" or "I don't guess I'll go to the picnic..." ... I only hear it among family members at gatherings; in public they don't use it...
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Moe Egan
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I don't guess they feel comfort-like talkin such a ways in the big city. 
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Deirdre
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Is "So don't I" a New Englandism?
I even hear "don't" said in place of "do" in many conjugations.
"So wasn't Harrison"
"So isn't Amy"
All meaning the opposite.
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Don G.
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Two more, as long as we're on a roll here.
I still hear an occasional "nego-see-ation" rather than nego-shee-ation. And similar to DB's comment above, it still bugs me when I hear someone say "me either" instead of "me neither". |
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Frank F
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Here in the sticks we are still trying to "unthaw". I personally would like to thaw from the winter season, but who knows... I live in the sticks.
One of my favorite of mispronunciations is the fer, meaning "for"... it is used in the energizer spots currently on television... and it makes me laugh every time I hear the poor pronunciation.
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COURVO
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I've always get a kick out of the frequently but incorrectly mentioned "Beckon-call" in place of the traditional "beck and call"...although I must admit, I have no idea what a "beck" means in this context.
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ccpetersen
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One of the two worst voice-overs I can never get out of my head are from a long time ago, back when we lived in Denver, and Dan Reeves was head coach of the Broncos. He did a PSA about carpooling, and his line was: "Call 458 POOL" except he said, "Cawl Fower fahve ate POO"
The other one was by a woman who was married to one of Denver's richest car dealers. When he died, she inherited the "bidness" and decided to do her own TV spots. She had a kind of scratchy voice (like she'd lost it to a sore throat) and a real strong Texas drawl, which just got in the way of her tongue sometimes.
So, you'd hear these spots where she'd rasp out, "They's just a hunnert dollars over invoice"...
GAH!!!
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Mike Sommer
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Don't want to come across as a stick in the mud but...
This is a fine example of what linguists call “popular etymology.” People don’t understand the origins of a word or expression and make one up based on what seems logical to them. “Beck” is just an old shortened version of “beckon.” If you are at people’s beck and call it means they can summon you whenever they want: either by gesture (beck) or speech (call).
"Beckoning" " or "Beck and call"
As in: "I am at your beckoning call"
Or "I was delighted to be at her beck and call"
Other delightful vernaculars:
ax for ask
worsh for wash, or Washington
wader for water
And I've been known to say
Crapsule for Capsule (we had to stop rolling after that)
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Deirdre
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Sorry, old sport, but "beck and call" is a real expression, not a popular misappropriation of words.
From word-detective.com:
| Quote: | To have someone "at your beck and call" means to have complete control over every action that person takes, to command their constant attention, and to have them standing ready to obey your slightest whim. (As you can probably deduce from that definition, it's a heck of a lot more fun having somebody "at your beck and call" than being the beck-and-callee.)
The "call" part of the phrase is pretty straightforward: if your master calls, you had better answer pronto. The "beck" part is a bit more obscure. "Beck" is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "A mute signal or significant gesture, especially one indicating assent or notifying a command; e.g., a nod, a motion of the hand or forefinger, etc." If you've ever worked (as I have) for a boss who graduated from the "point and grunt" school of management, that "motion of the forefinger" business will conjure up all sorts of fond memories.
Although the word "beck" used outside of "beck and call" is archaic and rarely heard today, it's really only a shortened form of our familiar word "beckon," meaning "to make a mute signal or gesture," especially to call a person over to you. "Beckon," in turn, comes from an old Germanic word meaning "signal," from which we also derive the modern English word "beacon."
As a verb, "beck" first appeared around 1300 A.D. ("beckon" is a bit older, first showing up around 950). The phrase "beck and call" is much more recent, dating only to about 1875. |
fromn takeourword.com:
| Quote: | | ...there is no early instance of "beckon call" in the written record, while there are plenty of instances of beck and call. Usually the tendency would be to run things together over time (beck and call into beckon call, or dog eat dog into doggie dog). You are suggesting the reverse, and while it does happen (it's usually called folk etymology), it does not appear to have happened in this instance. |
Also please see:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/beck
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SkinnyJohnny
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When I lived in North Carolina (not Charlotte!), I heard a newscaster on a local AM station say...
"The robber was rendered unconscience!"
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Mike Sommer
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Yes Deirdre
I believe that is what I indicated
I also indicated Beck (noun) Beckon (verb)
Beckoning can be either a gerund or present participle:
The woods beckoning call (gerund) or I am beckoning the maid (present participle)
What you may have read was my premature submission (hit the submit instead of preview) where I indicated "Beckon Call" but did not include an example. All this due to my Vodka haze form rounds of night-fancy, tavern high jinks and snookers. I immediately made the correction.
I am now off to my favorite eatery for a plate of "Devils Mess"
this my help my presnet condition. 
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Deirdre
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Alllll rightie.
I just wanted to assure folks that the term is
Beck And Call
not
Beckon Call.
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scottnilsen
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Hey, can't we all just get along? I mean, every one of us has our own road to hold.
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melissa eX
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Yep, so you may want to nip it in the butt right now.  |
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