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vkuehn DC
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 688 Location: Vernon now calls Wisconsin home
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: Tone Wood |
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I budget a small amount of time for just chasing interesting looking You-Tube episodes. "How I built my Studio" show-and-tell will capture my attention everytime.
Watched a guy in Europe show how he built his studio. He did all the traditional, accepted and right things. But toward the end of the 3rd episode as he began to flesh-out the decor I muttered "Say What?" or some slightly less socially acceptable. He had a lot of wall space covered by sound absorbing materials and then he began laying something over the center of each wall. Strips of wood. Some pieces of wood that looked like they wanted to be diffusors when they grow up. And then he began waxing poetic about the "tone wood" he was using.
He probably does more music recording and editing than he does v-o recording. So maybe he simply wanted a decor that would impress his music friends. But he had a number of wood "slats" maybe 6 inches wide, 3 to 4 feet long, and lined up side by side with gaps between the slats like a shadow box privacy fence around your patio.
Now I've read how many of the older (classical music) concert halls in this country are patterned after the great European concert and opera houses with a lot of wood panels for acoustic enhancement. If it was good enough for stradivarious to use to make great violins, why not a great listening hall?
Has anyone ever incorporated "resonating wood" slats or panels in a studio? |
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, and wood is great IF you know how to use it.
I will dig out some old pictures and show how wood and acoustic stones/rock a mesh well in a studio.
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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DenaliDave Club 300
Joined: 09 Jan 2016 Posts: 307 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Well they make violins and acoustic guitars out of certain woods for their tonal qualities....
I would imagine it might add warmth or wooliness to a room. _________________ "The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve." - Buddha
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sdaeley17 Club 300
Joined: 04 Sep 2013 Posts: 338 Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Promo Pro Beau Weaver has a perfect (and beautiful) example of using wood and stone in his booth, which you can see here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Vf2-ZUDoY _________________ "There's Magic all around us; you just have to see it. And the most wonderful Magic of all, is just bein' alive." -Uncle Montork, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe |
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vkuehn DC
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 688 Location: Vernon now calls Wisconsin home
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:26 am Post subject: |
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sdaeley17 wrote: | Promo Pro Beau Weaver has a perfect (and beautiful) example of using wood and stone in his booth |
Thank you, Sean. I had seen this Beau Weaver video before and I was overwhelmed with the detail. (I sent a link to the video to a non-VO friend of mine who, as I knew he would, just went bonkers over "Beau's hippie hair-do".)
This time through, I was watching for little detail. So often in a booth, the table, the desk-top is attached to the walls. When you look over the top of the desk (in the booth) there looks like there may be 24 inches or so of open space between the back of the desk and the wall. To me one of the acoustic nightmares of "a booth too small" is that we create little proximity-effect nightmares with table tops that reach to the wall on each side, and the wall behind. |
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Mike Harrison M&M
Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 2029 Location: Equidistant from New York City and Philadelphia, along the NJ Shore
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:34 am Post subject: |
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My high school's auditorium walls featured wood paneling interspersed with acoustical insulation. It sounded great in there. _________________ Mike
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I have taken leave of my sensors.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Use Maple if you want a tight focused bright fundamental tone, Mahogany if you want a warm and woody mid range focused tone with slightly dipped high and lows, East Indian Rosewood if you want a luscious deep complex tone with heavy harmonic content (Brazilian Rosewood will reward you with greater depth and complexity but is very expensive because the species is now protected due to over harvesting in the past), Koa if you want a bright but still woody tone with a depth that develops with age and if you want something really special try Cocobolo. It will give you solid and complex bass frequencies a slightly scooped midrange but shimmering crystalline highs when paired with powerful Adirondack Spruce or balanced Sitka Spruce. |
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Monk King's Row
Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 1152 Location: Nestled in the Taconic Hills
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Jason,
Ya made my morning.
Don't forget balsa wood for a light airy sound and for a room that needs a solid lumberjack sound, nothing beats the mighty scotch pine. _________________ Company, villainous company, hath been the spoil of me...
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Lee Gordon A Zillion
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6855 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Good thing Trish Basanyi isn't a regular here, or she's be lining her booth with purpleheart. And do you need to add extra bass traps if you use basswood? _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Rob Ellis M&M
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | East Indian Rosewood if you want a luscious deep complex tone with heavy harmonic content (Brazilian Rosewood will reward you with greater depth and complexity but is very expensive because the species is now protected due to over harvesting in the past), Koa if you want a bright but still woody tone with a depth that develops with age and if you want something really special try Cocobolo. |
So much for buying some 2X4s from Lowes and putting them in my booth |
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vkuehn DC
Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 688 Location: Vernon now calls Wisconsin home
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Elwood wrote: | So much for buying some 2X4s from Lowes and putting them in my booth |
Oh, the guy in the video included something that looked like the 2x4s from Lowes but they didn't count at "tone wood".... they were the token "diffusors".
It's a real bummer that he didn't give a ratio for how many square feet of diffusors vs. square feet of tone wood. |
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DenaliDave Club 300
Joined: 09 Jan 2016 Posts: 307 Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:33 am Post subject: |
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A combination of woods in the correct ratios could really add a "shine" to a room's acoustics.
Based on what's been said here already about the tonal qualities of specific wood -- using those woods in the right spots, in the right shapes, and in right amounts would be awesome.
I bet it is a finely dialed in science, and very space-dependent. No two areas are the same, and even an expert would probably have to listen to the room's natural acoustic signature for a while and experiment to get it dialed in.
I would imagine the smaller the space, the less wiggle room you have. Tolerances would be higher as to placement, quantity, and wood type. With less air to move and less surface area for it to hit, you'd want to make sure every sliver of wood had a purpose. _________________ "The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve." - Buddha
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Bruce Boardmeister
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7964 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Two things... I used to record in a studio in Phoenix that was 60% wood surfaces... floor and much of the walls, and 20% windows. The rest was acoustical panels. Whatever he did it sounded just like the best padded cells, er booths, I've worked in.
Other thing from watching the Beau Weaver video: I have a new CAD100 mic and I'm getting lots of low rumbling noise that shows up on my VU meters but is almost inaudible. I'm sure it's a combination of the very short and tight o-rings they use in their shock mount not absorbing much vibration PLUS the flexible mic boom that I use that is attached to my desk. It wobbles every so slightly every time I touch the desk as in rolling the mouse wheel to advance copy on the screen. Beau appears to have wrapped some heavy cloth or such around one of his flexible booms and strapped it tight. I'll give it a try and see if that helps.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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As a side note from my earlier post, all descriptions of wood qualities are based on them being a quarter inch thick and able to vibrate freely. Get any of those woods in lumber form and I highly doubt they would impart anything other than varying levels of delightful aroma. Man I LOOOOVE the smell of Cocobolo. I used to have a magical guitar (2008 Taylor Fall Limited GA Cocobolo) and every time I put it down after playing I would stick my nose down in the soundhole and breath deeply. Maybe I'll get some Cocobolo and make some raw trim around my bass traps out of it. I would never want to leave my booth |
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Monk wrote: | Jason,
Ya made my morning.. |
And THAT makes my day! |
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