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Diane Maggipinto
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of scripts for practice and/or demo, has anyone ever thrown down $19 to Edge Studio for their 2500 scripts, available via website, sent secretly within 2 days of payment??
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...thought about it, but ended up going for the more rotten deal at IV for $9.95. Now that it's in hand, I'll have to agree with others that it's probably not worth it.

I'd agree with MCM that copy exists everywhere if you open your eyes to it.

Someone said magazine writing may not be appropriate, but for AudioBook preparation it's not bad. It's certainly not made for the spoken word, but neither are most works of fiction or non-fiction, yet AudioBook narrators have to schlog through it anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I did the IV scripts too....AND the upgrade that came later. Some of the are okay....and some are not. Anyone want a copy?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pesonally, I think it's worth it. I mean, $20 is nothing these days and I am not going to spend my time leafing through magazines and stuff to find something worth voicing. The copy is good and it's sorted into appropriate catagories, which makes it easy to find what you want. With 2500 spots, it is easy to practice cold reading and when you find something that you really like, you can work it from every angle.

Worth it to me...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scripts are scripts, you are right to find something that works for you... but then again, you need to find something that challenges your sense of what is right for you.

In the real world, you will find that every script, no matter how it was written is YOURS to cuddle, massage, work, and make your own.

The script is only part of the equation. Each presents it's own experience.

Spending $20.00 for lots of scripts is convienient, but if you listen to the radio or television, look at magazines, or listen to a general converstaion between friends - you will find opportunities for "scripts" everyday. The "reality" of life around you is the biggest script you can purchase, and it's free for the taking.

Can you create the "Man on the Street" sound, or the "Saturday Nite at the Races", or the tender "I am with my Signifigant Other" feel and do all that back to back - and make it sound REAL in the same half hour session? With the same copy?

When you can, you know you have practiced enough to sell your talent to the top money folks... the ones who PAY lots of money.

Even Don LaFontaine has different tempos and sounds for different movie trailers, what can you do with your trademark sound? That is the 64 million dollar question.

Buy scripts if you must, but take the time to find the ones that are NOT YOU. These scripts are the ones that will make or break who you are, and give you the real practice you are looking for.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. . .I need to read all this again. . .two or three times. . .THANK YOU ALL!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about using magazines for copy is that you have a good fresh idea to start with - that someone spent a lot of time and money creating.

Yes, it is written for the eye. But part of being a good voice talent (well, part of being a good ANYTHING - practically) is being a good writer. You simply tweak it a bit to work for the ear and you have an original spot.

Funny story. A while back I created a whole commercial demo from magazine ads to replace a stale demo that was composed of real spots - after a few years, my real spots were the same kind of thing over and over again, so I was looking for a new demo with variety and zip. The first spot on the new demo was for Eukanuba dog food...taken from a magazine ad (it's still on my website somewhere).

A new agency picked me up and after submitting me on a job with a couple other of his talent, he was struck by something on both our demos. This other woman had a similar Eukanuba spot on her demo as well. It was the same product, many of the same words, but we sounded very different delivering them, so he didn't think that it would be a problem.

That was very strange...I knew mine was faked, so I was wondering if hers was too!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy all the scripts you want, but please, OH PLEASE, do NOT use it in your demo... I've heard plenty of demos with Edge Studio's copy being used over and over and over again... and 9 times out of 10 (or maybe 10 out of 10) it wasn't appropriate to the v/o

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd counsel against using those scripts for a demo for a broader market. I know theater directors get quite tired of hearing the same audtion monologues over and over again that come from the "50 Great Monologues for Men" and "50 Great Monologues for Women" books.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The overuse of certain theatrical audition material has become so tiresome, there is a DO NOT USE list published in the Boston Theater Community.

I've done a number of seasons'castings-- and if I never hear Giants in the Sky again it will be too soon.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actors, voice over, directors and producers should all have imagination and a sense of performance within them and yet so many demonstrate neither.

Usually they blame the state of "the business" for them not having any work. They're right, they're in the business and look at the state of them.

Rung one of the ladder - show your imagination, performance skills, drive and intiative. Can't do that? Get off the ladder and let someone else step up.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the Edge says you should only use them for practice and not for demos.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmgood wrote:
Even the Edge says you should only use them for practice and not for demos.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banksey wrote:
Actors, voice over, directors and producers should all have imagination and a sense of performance within them and yet so many demonstrate neither.

Usually they blame the state of "the business" for them not having any work. They're right, they're in the business and look at the state of them.


What he said. This is esxpecially true in the film industry when the above-the-liners try to explain away a disappointing box office. "we misread the market, those sort of movies aren't doing well this year." "The industry's not receptive to films about xx right now." "Right now the xx approach is what's really doing well."

Yo, Ponytail...has it occurred to you yet that maybe your movie sucked?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billelder wrote:
I feel your pain. I read this line on a television show the other week.

"...you'd better believe that Ken knows how to drive his Willys."


Dear God, I saw that show and remember thinking, "Knows how to drive his Willys? Who the hell would write that???"

Congrats on the gig, by the way. Speaking as one who was once an exploding cow in a radio commercial, the pride in our work comes when the check does.
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