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tokyofan Been Here Awhile

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: self-produced demo critique |
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Hey VOers,
I spent a half day recording and mixing this spot for fun (it was a V123 audition script). http://www.chriskoprowski.com/mylinks/StormEye.aif
I welcome comments on any aspect though more interested in the sound quality and how I could improve my production technique.
A quick list of processing (in order):
Voice track:
Waves Vox downward expander
Waves REN Comp (very light)
De-esser
EQ Tracks3 (vocal warmth)
EQ Digirack (low cut and and slight boost around 5K)
D-Verb (slight reverb)
Master track:
D-Verb
Brainwprx Cleansweep (low-cut)
Ren Comp (very slight)
S1 Shuffler (subtle improved imaging)
L1 Ultramaximizer (gentle limiting to -3dB)
Thanks!
Chris _________________ www.chriskoprowski.com/en |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Very nice!
I know that's kinda weak, but that is what I said out loud when I hear this.
I wish I could address the processing you mention but I can't. I thought it looked like too much (too many notes) but here on my lappy, it sounded clear and fine and the BG music was a keen accompaniment.
Really nice read! You have a very kind, authoritative voice that's easy on the ears. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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asnively Triple G

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same response that DB had. I said "Wow!" aloud! _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11075 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: |
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It's a fine and dandy bread and butter demo. I did not WOW because the two girls planted high expectations deep within the bosom of my soul and upon hearing a Voiceoverist deliver a Voiceoverism I was left deeply crushed right down to the core of my being. I paid no attention to the production which suggests it was just right.
Money earning Voiceoverist sound - CHECK. Now choose your next rung on the ladder and start climbing. |
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tokyofan Been Here Awhile

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: re: |
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Thanks much for your positive comments!! What a confidence booster! I usually have my stock demos done by pros but I like to dabble a little when I have time.
Deirdre: when you say it looked like 'too many notes', are you talking about the read?
Philip: Cryptic as usual But I agree...it's a very straight and safe read. Thanks for weighing in!
Back to the lab... _________________ www.chriskoprowski.com/en |
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Chris you're a great technical reader, and you've made great improvements in becoming more conversational. But you've still have got that NPR mechanical read in your voice. I know it's a tough habit to break, especially when it's your daily bread and butter .
Here's a couple of things you can do to try to get you a little more conversational: 1) Take your copy and read it as fast as you can. Then try to read it faster, and try to read it faster than the read before. What this will do is take your mind off the actual words and place it on to the act of coming in under time. Then when you read it at regular speed is should flow out effortlessly. 2) Write down a bunch of emotions and feelings on strips of paper and put them in a hat (happy, sad, mad, indifferent, drunk, snarky, etc..). Pull out an emotion and read the copy. Then pull out another emotion and layer the two emotions in the read. This is good for everyone, because it helps you find different nuances in the script, by forcing you to stress different words. All kinds of great discoveries are possible with this technique.
Over all the production is good. Music is a little hot. A little trick, when you put a bump in your upper mid vocal EQ, give equal an equal reduction to your music EQ. _________________ The Blog:
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Dustin Parkhurst

Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Tulsa, OK
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:13 am Post subject: Half a day? |
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Sounds really good. I hope you're exaggerating about the half-day. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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tokyofan wrote: |
Deirdre: when you say it looked like 'too many notes', are you talking about the read?
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No, I meant the stack of processing.
I tend to go commando with my stuff, so I expected something squashed or artifacted. But as Philip said, I didn't hear the processing at all which makes it just right.
I thought your read was just fine for this kind of program. Authoritative and smooth.
There are a few pronunciation points I'd hammer you on if I were directing you, for instance the words "Institute" and "advanced" are not as crisp as they should be and "available" needs a long-A sound in the 2nd syllable.
The nifty experiments that Mike talks about are part of the process of "doing it wrong" which is a really good way to bust out of a groove if you find your reads are sounding too similar. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Mike Sommer A Hundred Dozen

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 1222 Location: Boss Angeles
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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Deirdre wrote: |
The nifty experiments that Mike talks about are part of the process of "doing it wrong" which is a really good way to bust out of a groove if you find your reads are sounding too similar. |
The second technique is great for all you character actors. How often are we ever feeling just one single emotion? Our life is built upon layers. The more layers we can bring to our reads, the more believable we can be.
One example, how often have you ever cried, and somebody said or did something that made you laugh? That's a very powerful dynamic -not only to have, but to understand. Layering brings realism, "depth" to our characters. _________________ The Blog:
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Acoustics are counter-intuitive. If one thing is certain about acoustics, it is that if anything seems obvious it is probably wrong. |
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schrecster Contributor
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 32 Location: Plain Old Texas
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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one thing I noticed was that the way you pronounced the name of the clinic sounded to me like "store my" clinic instead of storm eye clinic.
I am having trouble trying to put into words what I heard. I guess I would say it this way, if you were a trumpet player, you would be slurring the note as opposed to tonguing the note. it sounds like bah-wah, as opposed to bah bah...... it seems like there is no seperation between the words storm and eye |
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tokyofan Been Here Awhile

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: re: |
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All great feedback!
Mike: I do regular news recording and also educational, ESL-type stuff in Tokyo. So it's hard to break out of that straight, 'announcery' mode at times. Thanks for the reading tip...ill try that! And I'll tweak the music.
Deidre: Yes, I noticed some of the words could be a little crisper and and some of the articulation seems to have gotten lost in the mix. I'll need to re-read this. I tried to keep processing bare-bones so it would sound like me. And an engineering friend taught me to kill the lows in the my voice so it sits better in the mix.
Screcster: With the first 'Storm Eye Clinic' I think I punched each word pretty well....though the second and third instances could be clearer, I agree.
I'll keep working on this. It probably won't be a keeper but it's still good practice. I just posted a bunch of new demos on my site if anyone's curious. Thanks again! _________________ www.chriskoprowski.com/en |
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schrecster Contributor
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 32 Location: Plain Old Texas
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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tokyofan wrote: |
Screcster: With the first 'Storm Eye Clinic' I think I punched each word pretty well....though the second and third instances could be clearer, I agree.
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I gave it another listen, and yes you got the first one, the second and third instances were the ones where I heard "store my".
That phrase is not easy to say. last night i was messing around with it, and more often than not what I recorded sounded like "store my" as well. you have to really clip off the M sound to get it to sound right |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Hey, is that with the Speck 5.0?
Sounds great in terms of the production and quality.
I think you should experiment with a higher pitch/register for your voice. That will break you out of the narrator/announcer vibe where you rest upon two lower drone notes for your voice.
Lately, I've decided to raise my register, and it gives me so much more natural range...room to move and be more expressive. If I want to be more announcery I drop my range. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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tokyofan Been Here Awhile

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: re: |
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Yep, that's the Speck 5.0 paired with a U87ai. Liking it!
The direction on this spot called for a tone which is "educational yet compassionate and authoritative" so I stayed in my lower register which seems more soothing. But, you're right, I should experiment more.
Here's a new take:
http://www.chriskoprowski.com/mylinks/Storm_eye.wav
I re-read a few lines with better articulation, though the delivery is still pretty straight forward and matter-of-fact. I cut the compression and EQ 'warmth' on the vocal track and lowered the music.
Thanks! _________________ www.chriskoprowski.com/en |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's nice! Really good read, just a notch higher up frees up your range of expression.
You probably know this, but the transformer on the Speck is on the output, so if you engage the pad and drive the gain you get full character from that Jensen transformer. Or, you can drive the gain and attenuate a bit on the MIX side, which is post-transformer. Ah...the Speck . _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
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