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craigcrumpton Been Here Awhile
Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 240 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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"Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you."
Another axiom gets the axe.
This one still seems to work: "Loose lips sink ships."
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I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: |
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What a mess. I'm sorry for DC, to be sure.
I guess the lesson is if we're in the position of being small enough to lose a job, we have to censor our public sentiment. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Who acted like a bully in the first place? D.C. did by calling them "mentally retarded". No matter what your politics are, D.C. drew first blood. If a conservative VO guy (there are those, right?) called the DNC and called them mentally retarded they'd get the axe too.
Anyhow, now do we expect to see an audition request on v12Whhheee?
50-100 USD for a buyout? That rate will save us a lot on our car insurance. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too!
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mcm Smart Kitteh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Posts: 2600 Location: w. MA, USA
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asnively Triple G

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 3204 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I understand getting fired up about perceived racism and homophobia. But I also get fired up about the term "mentally retarded" being used as an insult. Better decisions could have been made on both sides. _________________ the Amy Snively family of brands for all your branded thing needs.
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glittlefield M&M

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2039 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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So, a private phone call placed to an organization (however inappropriately worded) makes it ok for the recipient to turn around and post his home phone number on the web and pressure his client to fire him?
That's like execution for punching someone. _________________ Greg Littlefield
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11074 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I would never trust an organisation with the reputation for playing dirty to suddenly decide to play fair just because it was me. |
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:08 am Post subject: |
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He didn't have a private phone call. He left an abusive message on their main line, no? When you do that and you leave your number, you're asking for it. I'd love to hear the full "voice over" DC left on the phone, not just the edited one he posted. If I called up the DNC or any organization of any stripe and left my number and called them "mentally retarded" I'd be in a world of hurt. Philip nailed it though.
DC is really pushing it with his blog rebuttal. It's distasteful and unprofessional no matter how much he was wronged. Seeing that leads me to believe he was very abusive in his message, but he's innocent until proven guilty.
Darn, he's Lance Baxter? Am I going to have to change my name???  _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too!
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glittlefield M&M

Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 2039 Location: Round Rock, TX
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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The WAV file is out there, Lance.
I'm willing to bet the DNC gets calls like that all the time, so that's probably not the best scenario.
DC made the mistake of leaving that message with a PAC that fed right into their agenda. _________________ Greg Littlefield
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:20 am Post subject: |
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The DNC certainly gets abusive messages everyday, but not from established voice talents with big clients.
He's got to cut out the TeaBagger stuff. You've got to stand against them with the facts not with shooting from the hip. His blog rebuttal looks like the immature abusive ignorant self-righteous things he's railing against. I'm massively disappointed in what he's done. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Rob Ellis M&M

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:18 am Post subject: |
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The bottom line is, right or wrong, in this business, one cannot afford to be unusually conspicuous when it comes to things like politics.
Especially when corporations who sell to the public(who are either conservative or liberal)
are hiring us to represent them. These companies don't want anyone representing them to alienate or offend large segments of their potential customer base.
Political ads are kind of a different story, though, and imply a slightly different set of rules.
It may suck, but that's the reality of it IMO.
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Donna King's Row

Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 1118 Location: The studio or the barn.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Okay, Lance. Why don't you call Moveon.org or some other progressive organization and leave a similar voice mail. Leave your name and number, and then come back here and tell us how it went. |
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Drew King's Row

Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1118 Location: Tumbleweed Junction, The Republic of North Texas
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I think those of us in the public eye...or ear, need to be cautious about how we vent our spleens. Personally, I have a punching bag in the garage. _________________ www.voiceoverdrew.com
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Donna wrote: | Okay, Lance. Why don't you call Moveon.org or some other progressive organization and leave a similar voice mail. Leave your name and number, and then come back here and tell us how it went. |
I actually wrote to a Freedom Rally organizer on Monday to let them know that the law they were rallying against was repealed in 2007. I just stated the fact and was respectful about it. That's how you do it. I have turned down lots of work for similar Tea Party-type organizations based on principle.
I'm not going to leave abusive messages anywhere...that's my point. There is no excuse for the utter lack of class that DC is showing. His blog rebuttal is disgraceful and childish, and I'm a die-hard liberal. All voice-overists should be bummed out by what he's done. It makes us look bad. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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