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Mike Harrison · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject:

Worth every penny.

And not a penny more.
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Bailey · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject:

imaginator · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject:

...and the face on that logo shows you all the personality you'll get from your read.
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asnively · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject:

But why $30? Why something so far below what even the low-budget people are willing to pay?

Why not make it $150? They'd likely have more clients (because wouldn't most people be afraid to hire a $30 VO?) and they'd surely be making more per gig.

Choosing such a randomly low number just announces to the world that they don't know much about this business, and that they have a small-market local radio world view.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:51 am Post subject:

I like the idea! For most people who faff about with the likes of VOcannuck and void123 it is a gift ....your voice will do matey.com and for most of the jobs rattling around the internet YOUR voice WILL do.

In the UK the local commercial radio market (VOs on ISDN) tends to work on the basis of he who answers the phone gets the job, within reason. The union minimum rate for the average sized commercial radio station per ad is $32.

In the "YOUR voice WILL do" market it's about being ok, about volume, about not auditioning and about NOT faffing about. The maximum number of Union minimum rate ads I've done in one session is 37. 37x $32 = $1184 ...How many times per week would you need to do that in order to make a living?

October is going to be "Equality of treatment month". We acknowledge that an ad on K-WeHaveNoRealAudience 1175am is only worth $30 and in return clients like the aforementioned station stop behaving like The New Saatchi Agency and wanting 5 auditions, 7 takes and free re-takes.

Here's your Branding statement "I read it well, in time for $30..Then you **** off!"

Todd Ethridge · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:18 am Post subject:

JCDunn · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:47 am Post subject:

Bruce · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:03 am Post subject:

What's really sad? I listened to snippets of each of their talents and almost half of them could (and maybe do) charge more traditional rates elsewhere. Why they're selling out I couldn't guess.

The quality of the other half of them?.....well, if you can't say something nice.....

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todd ellis · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:01 am Post subject:

i think i'm seeing this all wrong ... i keep raising my rates and doing less for more ... i guess need to move the other direction.
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Drew · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:35 am Post subject:

The genius behind this latest dollar a holler venture is the VA "Ernie" listed at the bottom of the roster. I've had dealings with "Ernie".

He's based here in Texas. In recent months several clients have contacted both of us to quote for gigs. And he's won them all as a result of low-balling.

The most recent incident happened a couple of weeks ago. I was asked to quote a 5300 word text. I bid around $700. I got an email from the cleint that "Ernie" was coming in much lower at like $250. I just shook my head.

Then a few minutes later "Ernie" had the audacity ( no software pun intended) to phone me to discuss the job we were both up for. A really chatty, "Happy Harry" type. He was trying to get me to disclose the rate I was bidding."

"What business is that of yours?" I asked in a pretty irritated tone.
"Eh, hey... if my call is making you feel uncomfortable..."
"Your dime. And and no, I'm not uncomfortable. Just pissed."
"Hey, dude, we're all in this together. Why am I irritating you?"

Then there were a few moments of silence as I started counting to ten. I got to twelve and simply could not hold my composure.

"Hey, 'doood', you're a low-baller. You'll probably win this gig, and you'll feel all proud of yourself. But here's what you're doing. You're screwing yourself! You're lowing the bar of expectation with this client and all clients you come in contact with! And in the end, you're screwing all the men and woman who bust their asses daily to make a decent living in VO! Ya gettin' a clue here?

"Men AND women?! He replied. "Man, we all know this is a man's business. I mean, they're good for some things, but it's a cash crop for us. guys."

At that point I was speechless. Then I said...

"Man, I gotta get off the line. This is winding up in a hole, and when I'm in hole I stop diggin' and look for a ladder."
"Well, okay. Let's talk again, okay?"

"It won't be on my dime. I can assure you that!"

Two days later the client emailed me again. He apologized for making a hasty hire, and assured me I'll be his voice on the next project.

I hit delete.
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imaginator · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:22 am Post subject:

it's bad enough when somebody does something nasty.

it's worse when they've got to call you up and brag about it.

you had more tact than i would have shown.
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Lee Gordon · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:24 am Post subject:

What's really sad about this is. if the spots are going for 30 bucks a pop, "Ernie" -- or whoever is running this outfit -- is taking his cut out of that, so the talent is probably getting only $10-15 a whack.

BTW, I just listened to the VO samples. Those are presumably the best 7 or 8 voices in their roster. None was horrible; none was outstanding. They were all, in the words of my former roommate, "superbly adequate."
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asnively · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:07 am Post subject: