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tokyofan
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: Waves C4 super special Reply with quote

Waves is selling this @ $99 (native). Anyone using the C4 for VO or another multi-band plug? I'd be interested in knowing how to use it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there are a lot of ways to use it, it all depends on what you are trying to do.

Things you should ask yourself:
What am I hoping to achieve with it?
Do I really need it in the chain?

My big question are:
What is it that you are trying to do?
Are you doing a lot of production work? and what kind?
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The C4 gives you the convenience of having a De-Esser and a multiband dynamic processor/limiter in one... kind of nifty, I guess... or, you can bypass the EQ and use it as a limiter/comp. The Comp/limiter is pretty much the same as the Wave Rennaissance Compressor, which is not a bad tool for VO.

It is a little outdated though. The same plug has been around for more than 10 yrs now.

Can you accomplish the same with other free, or stock plugs in most DAW recording software? possibly. Is it worth $99? I've blown $99 on worse things
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: re: Reply with quote

Right, I'm not sure I need it or if it would improve things by much...but multi-band comps are out there for a reason, so just curious as to how it might be a useful addition to my arsenal of plugs. I like to dabble with full productions as well. Seems like a good price, even as dated as it is. Does anyone else use this? Thx!
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are doing a lot of production then it is useful to "pull everything together" on the main buss out. The trick is very gentle compression so that it does not sound compressed.

Most radio stations use 3 or 4 band compressors to actually contour or create the "stations sound." SO if one uses to much compression on a track it can make things sound like a big mess, but with gentle use, it can make for a tight mix.

If you like I can give you some basic settings to play with for starters, just PM me. But be warned, you can screw things up real quick with these things.

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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for a few bucks more, here's a multiband comp/limiter that I've gotten an awful lot of mileage out of:

http://www.pspaudioware.com/plugins/dynamic_processors/psp_vintagewarmer2/

PSP Vintage Warmer2. There are tons of presets to eliminate the fiddle factor. Switch to mono for a single vo track. Switch to stereo for the master bus.

Trial demo available and occasionally they offer this for $79
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