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CC Heim
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: very best pop screen???? Reply with quote

I have an issue with plosives. Im trying to correct this through mic technique, but also think a better pop screen would provide additional help. Anyone in love with their pop screen?

Thanks y'all!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shure Popper Stopper is very good. Will cut down on sibilance, too!
Use your Hi Pass filter on your mic, pre, or interface, if you have one.

Avoid the metal pop screens. They can create funky sounds.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pair of nylons over a rounded metal hangar worked back in the day of "We are the World"
http://youtu.be/ne7fPpxAnuM?t=2m12s
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:14 am    Post subject: Fork out and forget it.... Reply with quote

If you want the best available the Pauly Superscreen takes some beating. Stupidly expensive, but once you get one you can forget about plosives and get on with your job.

Some people favour the Steadman, but the Pauly works well for us here and has almost zero artifacts.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this about the Stedman and Pauly.

Taking away sibilance is almost always a good thing on female voices.
I've never been so picky about pop screens myself, I just look at them as a protection from spit on the capsule. Proper technique in position and performance (as Pat Fraley demonstrated to me yesterday) should preclude the need to stop plosives with a screen.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're still popping the mic, your mic and vocal technic is not perfected yet.

Pop screens are safety nets, for the stray blast of air.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even Frank popped from time to time...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would apPear...

that's Mike's ProPensity to Pontificate about Plosive Popping has the effect of Putting off People in these Parts.

But, he makes a good Point.

Please, Put his comments into ProPer PersPective.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to go commando.

Sounds better to my ear. Plus most pops I can fix with a little low shelf filter.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best popper stopper is "distance".

"Yea but I like the proximity eeefect"

The reason, there is a switch on certain mics to combat the proximity effect is that it is not considered a good thing except by 1970's ex-radio peeps.
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CC Heim
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your comments! I tend to speak very close to the mic -- my old singing days of having my director say "I wanna see LIPSTICK ON THE MIC!!!"

Trying a little more distance to see how that goes.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
there is a switch on certain mics to combat the proximity effect is that it is not considered a good thing except by 1970's ex-radio peeps.


waddaya mean when I get real close I'm too sexy for my mic
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one is working the mic closely, one should not be speaking in full voice. Think of the mic as the listeners ear. One would not speak at full voice when talking into someones ear, would we?? No. Same goes for the mic.

When speaking louder, one should then back off the mic.

The Microphone does not need to be directly in front of the talent:
With most every mic, the capsule needs to be simply aimed at your mouth.
Set your mic capsule at about cheek [bone/ eye] level, aimed downward at the mouth:



I also set the mic off to the side to avoid any head on air blasts:


With a quality condenser mic for most VO, a distance of 10 to 12-inches is just about right.


Practice reducing your Popping Plosives by hold your hand in front of your mouth about 6 to 8-inches away, as you read some copy. If you feel heavy blast of air on your had, you're pushing to hard. If you are speaking correctly, you should hardly feel a breath, if any at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike is right about the Mic. Mic Technique and placement is the answer...try smiling when you are about to POP works wonders.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Sommer wrote:

Set your mic capsule at about cheek level, aimed downward at the mouth:


You mean at cheek bone level, correct?
(above the mouth, rather than at the level of that fleshy stuff on the outsides of the mouth)
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