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Anyone using Solid State Hard Drives?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Anyone using Solid State Hard Drives? Reply with quote

I never see the topic discussed. They're new, they're expensive and for comparative purposes, they are small. But my PC setup utilizes a 250gb drive for the 'system' drive and two terabyte drives to work from and archive. I was wondering if it would be of value to go with solid state for the 250gb drive.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for gearitis? Don't waste your money. Down the road, when your drive is ready to fail? Perhaps. SSD prices are coming down, albeit slowly. By the time you need it, they may be cost effective, but not now. If it ain't broke....

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got the boy's old black MacBook... complete with dead hard drive. As I had to get a new drive anyway, and I wasn't particularly worried about massive amounts of storage, I slapped in a 160GB SSD. The boot times are impressive and it's become a very quiet machine (until the fan kicks-in). I'll do the same for the MacPro when the time comes, but as it stays on 24/7, the boot time issue is minimal for me.

So I think I'm agreeing with "if it ain't broke...". However, if boot times are an annoyance, then it can be worthwhile. We've got one PC left in the house (running XHobo Happy and if it were mine, then I'd consider an SSD simply because of the "go away and make a cup of tea" boot time.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boot time can be an issue, but not a major one. However, my drives are a couple years old, and when it comes to HD's I'm not sure 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' is the best adage. Monitoring age can prevent a lot of headaches. While I make regular backups, HD's are much easier mirrored when the drive being replaced is healthy enough to function. Hence my enquiry..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSDs are great for speed. However, they're usually not a great tradeoff in terms of value. YMMV.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you'd enjoy the quicker bootup and quiet operation an SSD drive provides and you have the dough, why not?

One thing to take into account is if you ever plan/need to boot up the old drive. Once you set up your new SSD drive with AHCI (versus IDE) the old drive won't be bootable. All of your files will be there, it just won't be able to boot.

Not a big deal really, unless you were going to use it as a bootable backup drive, which I doubt. Just FYI.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a 64GB SSD in my hackintosh for system and aHobo Tounges and it is incredible.
It's not just boot times, but EVERYTHING. I never see a beachball anymore (hour glass). Everything response almost instantly. Applications launch in a few seconds at most. Cost $100 for a FAST Crucial SSD, well worth it.
Go to a 128GB SSD, the 64 is a bit tight (at least for Mac OS with huge Appel Mail libraries).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just did the same thing. 64gb ocZ from new egg for $89. my plan is the same as george's - osx (and MAYBE windows) and a few crucial aHobo Tounges. i have it sitting here & i'm hoping to get around to it next week. i'll let you know.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think heyguido has the right philosophy about it, unless you have cash to burn.

I replaced the HD in my Dell Mini 10 with an SSD because I needed a silent netbook for recording on the road. With the SSD, the fanless Mini 10 is now silent, so it worked perfectly for my needs, and it sure is fast as hell. But I see no need to replace the HD on my studio PC, since I have a booth and don't need a totally silent PC for recording at home.

If you do't need a silent audio computer, replacing your HD with an SSD is not necessary IMHO. But I DO know how gearitis works! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soundgun wrote:
I put a 64GB SSD in my hackintosh for system and aHobo Tounges and it is incredible.
It's not just boot times, but EVERYTHING. I never see a beachball anymore (hour glass). Everything response almost instantly. Applications launch in a few seconds at most. Cost $100 for a FAST Crucial SSD, well worth it.
Go to a 128GB SSD, the 64 is a bit tight (at least for Mac OS with huge Appel Mail libraries).


How about writing data? Kind of like when you're recording...

SSDs aren't quite there when it comes to sustained writing of data. Reading data? Absolutely brilliant.

Toss them into a decent RAID array and the issue is easily remedied, but that's the trade-off (at present) when it comes to SSDs.

I use SSDs in a lot of systems (not all, but it's being adopted faster than I'd have expected... especially based on the price), and the technology has gotten better as far as write speeds go. Still, the technology isn't cost effective enough for most people.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, maybe not EVERYTHING is faster... But the things that a normal user will notice are much faster. I don't use it to record or store data, only for the OS and AHobo Tounges. It would be kinda foolish (and very expensive) to get an SSD for data storage. Sustained 500mb/s write speed is pretty common now. Just installed a Kingston in a friend's Macbook Pro, and it boots in 16 seconds from power button to desktop. No noise, no data loss due to drive heads impacting the disk if dropped, super fast seek times...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: regarding noise Reply with quote

Obviously the SSD drives are quieter than standard hard drives. But do the SSD's create more/less/same amount of heat internally (which makes the fan(s) kick in, where most of the noise will come from)?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D Voice,

SSD drives draw less power and also have no moving parts to generate friction. This equates to lower heat generation than their spinning cousins.

Check out this link: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/253029-32-heat
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSDs also do not suffer the same mechanic and magnetic risks as a regular HDD.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

typing to you now on my upgraded hackentosh. i had a mobo & processor bite the dust - and so while i had everything apart i went ahead and got a 64gb SSD as well. i have lion & a few aHobo Tounges on it and it's freekin smokin' - boots super fast - final cut 7 opens in like 4 seconds.

it's actually not a huge deal - but i was tearing stuff apart anyway and for $89 i thought i'd try one out.
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