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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13023 Location: Camp Cooper
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: Why to British Singers Sound American when they Sing? |
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This Article puts forth an interesting idea. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11075 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm certain a psychologist could add another 11 layers to that article. Great find.
Now ....
Why do most FVOs sound bored when they're asked to do a sexy read?
Why do most MVOs sound sleazy when asked to do a sexy read?
Why do most VOs fail to move on from emulating the style of another VO instead of finding who they are and how they should sound?
Wanting to fit in and lack of confidence .....
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I have been asked this question a number of times since I've been in the States. I've honed my answer down to two words... Liverpool Docks. There were so many American influences coming to town and the local youth were like a sponge, soaking up all that was new and hip, be it rock'n'roll, blues or soul. This built the sub-culture on which a wave of British Pop was born.
If an American sailor wanted to make sure he had plenty of spending money in Liverpool (although, for the life of me I can't think what there would be to spend it on there), all he had to do was bring over a pile of the latest records. The cool local kids used to wait at the docks or the local bars, eager to buy them. The musicians amongst them would learn the songs and emulate the delivery because that's what their audience wanted to hear.
As a side point, I've always liked the way American songs will happily feature places and things within them. Town names, roads numbers and car names always featured heavily in the music of the time (and still do). It's OK to sing about Kansas City and Hot Rod Lincolns. Although not completely unheard of in UK songs, singing about Wolverhampton, the North Circular or a Hillman Minx just doesn't work... and you can't sing convincingly about T-Birds, Route 66 and Tulsa if you sound like George Formby! _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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ChrisMezzolesta Club 300

Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 367 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Bish wrote: | If an American sailor wanted to make sure he had plenty of spending money in Liverpool (although, for the life of me I can't think what there would be to spend it on there) |
Ohhhh Dirty Maggie Mae? _________________ Chris Mezzolesta, Voice Talent
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JoeActor Contributor III

Joined: 20 Nov 2012 Posts: 84 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Many foreign singers use American vowel sounds when singing, but not all... I don't think Mick Jagger sounds American at all.
From my limited opera training, I can tell you that I had to learn different vowel sounds and mouth placement to sing Italian correctly...
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:01 am Post subject: |
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ChrisMezzolesta wrote: | Ohhhh Dirty Maggie Mae? | I wasn't going to go there... but visiting sailors in a major port towns do tend to encourage growth in certain service industries.
... and just to add to my earlier tome... the post-war proliferation of US airbases all over the UK also helped feed the Brit teen's desire for, and accessibility to, American music. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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Dale Leopold Contributor

Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Richmond. VA
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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What always cracked me up as a kid was hearing Paul McCartney's excellent R&B Americanisms (his Little Richard impression is uncanny) dissolve in an instant in "'Til There Was You": "There were birds/In the sky/But I never SOOOR them winging/No I never SOOOR them at all..." Yeah, no, that guy's *definitely* not from around here. _________________ Dale G. Leopold
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Dale Leopold Contributor

Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 29 Location: Richmond. VA
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Ah...just read the article in question, and I sawr--um, saw--that the author referenced the aforementioned lyric by Sir Paul as an attempt to sound more *American*. Well all right then. Double Fail! _________________ Dale G. Leopold
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imaginator The Thirteenth Floor

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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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...i just always assumed it was because they were influenced by early rock n' roll from the US, which usually had a slightly southern accent. _________________ rowell gormon
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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It's a double-whammy, 'cos Liverpudlians and inherently northerners.
As for Jagger... his accent is Estuary (albeit Kent rather than Essex), but his rounding drawl is his idiosyncratic voice rather than any particular accent. The London bands were less likely to follow an American lead. Unfortunately, the cultural stigma surrounding regional British Accents (with the record labels etc.) was another factor that made regional bands lean towards American. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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The Britpop bands (Blur, Suede) sang in very English accents in the 90s, and the punk bands in the 70s and 80s did. Most indie UK bands do - The Horrors, etc. currently sing with very English voices. It's just the all out pop geezers that don't.
My fave UK band is Super Furry Animals. They're Welsh, with heavy Welsh accents, but they sing in English (with a Welsh accent). They were discovered by an agent at a gig, and the guy (he was Oasis' manager) said "You are excellent, and I want to sign you. I first need to know can you sing in English too?" They were like "Um, we're singing in English!!!"
Funny thing, when I was little I thought for certain that The Cars were English...even though they all lived a few miles away in Boston. More recently, I was convinced that The National were English, even though they're from Ohio. They don't sing with an English accent, but the guy rather sounds like an Englishman trying to sound slightly American. Then there's Guided By Voices where the singer intentionally signs with a pretty English accent because he thinks it sounds cool. See, anybody can play fast and loose with accents!
Oh, and I really like Jeff Lynne's (ELO) singing accent. Very English, but smooooooothed out. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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Yonie CM

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Robert Plant in the first four Led Zeppelin albums: sometimes English, sometimes an English trying American on for size. |
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I'm keep hoping Bob Dylan would sing with an American accent more often.
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Mike Harrison M&M

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 2029 Location: Equidistant from New York City and Philadelphia, along the NJ Shore
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: | I'm keep hoping Bob Dylan would sing with an American accent more often. |
Hilarious!
Gerry Marsden (Gerry and The Pacemakers), and Peter Noone (Herman's Hermits) seemed to retain their British accents while singing.
And who could forget the Singing Nun? _________________ Mike
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Harrison wrote: | And who could forget the Singing Nun? | I had. Now I've remembered. Rats! _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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