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Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VoiceTom wrote:
Dave, after that post I just might be on the verge of buying my first Mac since 1990.


Tom, if you have an Apple store near you, it would be well worth a visit and let them walk you through any questions you might have about BootCamp. Or visit the Apple website www.apple.com and you can read a good deal about it. Happy decision making.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DigiDesign ALWAYS recommends a separate space for your audio files, but it doesn't have to be a separate DRIVE.

I use 2 partitions on one drive.
One for general housekeeping, one for audio and video.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:
DigiDesign ALWAYS recommends a separate space for your audio files, but it doesn't have to be a separate DRIVE.

I use 2 partitions on one drive.
One for general housekeeping, one for audio and video.



Deirdre:

Not sure that's correct, but I couldn't find anything on the DUC to contradict what you're saying. I swear I saw something on this subject just the other day...

Ever since I started using PTLE, I've used a separate dedicated drive for audio, and the system drive for...system stuff. And the reason I went to all that trouble was because DIGI SAID SO!!! And we must not contradict DIGI.

Admittedly you've gotten away with recording on your computer's system drive (by partitioning) and I've done it without partitioning, but I don't think that's the way Digi wants it done.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VoiceTom wrote:
Jim, you wanna go shopping together? Wink


Tom:

I've been shopping like a maniac online. Looks like MacMall has the best price, plus no shipping or tax. They even beat University Mac stores. Call or email and I'll tell you about it.

Don't think anyone in Lex sells Macs, except CompUSA. I stopped by there earlier this week and the pickings were pretty slim.

Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a little information: yes, you CAN do it either way... the reason it is suggested (both on PC and Mac's) to use a separate drive for your data (audio files) is that you do not use the System Resources and/or CPU when recording to a separate drive. (Well, you do, but it limits the incursion)

Try an outboard drive - especially for video, you will find it allows you better processing/rendering speed than with the idea of using the same drive - no matter how it configured.

Good outboard drive prices on www.TigerDirect.com right now.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something I thought of last night...

I'm planning on networking my VO comp through a wireless connection to my office PC (old gateway).
Any conflicts with this?

EDIT

After more research... networking doesn't seem to be an issue.

Also, 2 USB 2.0, 1 Firewire 400 Port

I'm assuming this means I'd be able to connect my firewire card from my Mackie w/ this? Is this the same as the IEEE-1394 on a PC?


Overall, not a bad deal for $1900. Do you choose XP Home or Pro? Also, the 80 gig HD is small. I'd probably use my 200 gig external for audio.

15.4 -inch widescreen LCD
1440 x 900 Resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Processor
512MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
80GB SATA hard drive
Slot-load Superdrive
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
128MB GDDR3 video memory
Built-in iSight video camera
Built-in Airport Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Gigabit Ethernet
Optical and Analog audio in/out
DVI or VGA video output
Built-in Dual Link DVI Support
ExpressCard/34 expansion slot
2 USB 2.0, 1 Firewire 400 Port
Includes infrared remote with Front Row
Mac OS X Tiger


Oh, boy. TOO MANY CHOICES!

I'm digging the iMacs too. That may be the one I decide on.
A loooong way from my old Mac Classic.





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had to post a new reply. Other one was getting too long.

For those contemplating a set-up Dave is suggesting, check out this article.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6484737.html

This clinches it for me. I'm goin' w/ a Mac. Just have to decide between the macbook pro or iMac.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VoiceTom wrote:

15.4 -inch widescreen LCD
1440 x 900 Resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo Processor
512MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
80GB SATA hard drive
Slot-load Superdrive
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
128MB GDDR3 video memory
Built-in iSight video camera
Built-in Airport Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Gigabit Ethernet
Optical and Analog audio in/out
DVI or VGA video output
Built-in Dual Link DVI Support
ExpressCard/34 expansion slot
2 USB 2.0, 1 Firewire 400 Port
Includes infrared remote with Front Row
Mac OS X Tiger


Tom:

Not sure which Mac this list refers to, but whichever one you choose make sure to at least double the memory to 1 or 2 GB.

Later, Jim
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point.

I'm also worried about taking up the only firewire port with my mixer.

This macbook pro would run about $3000 and has 2 firewire ports.

17-inch widescreen LCD
1680 x 1050 resolution
2.16GHz Intel Core Duo Processor
1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
120GB SATA hard drive
Slot-load SuperDrive
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
256MB GDDR3 video memory
Built-in iSight video camera
Built-in Airport Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Gigabit Ethernet
Optical and Analog audio in/out
DVI or VGA video output
Built-in Dual Link DVI Support
ExpressCard/34 expansion slot
2 USB 2.0, 1 Firewire 400 Port, and 1 Firewire 800 Port
Includes infrared remote with Front Row
Mac OS X Tiger
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used seperate drives to capture and store video/audio since stone age(way back on an Avid MSP on a Quadra 950) when 9 gig drives were HUGE!! The main reason I was told, was the OS will on occasion access the HD, (doing housekeeping and such in the background) and you don't want to be working on something critical, capture, render etc, when that happens.

And in those days a 20 second composite in Aftereffects took overnight to render. you would NOT want to have to do that again if there was a hiccup in the system while you were in dream land.

That said, I have produced music on my HP with a single drive, one tune with 14 separate tracks, and only 512 RAM. That system now has a 160 gig media drive in a removable tray, and 1.5 gig of RAM.

Yeah I switched from MAC to PC at work, it's always been PC at home and I have a ton of software for PC that I could not begin to afford to replace for MAC. to me, they are just tools, one is not better than the other, same with software, just which one works like you think, so you can get the job done.

(I also produced an award winning documentary on a celeron 400 with 384 meg or ram) Most computers today are more than up to the task.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:


*whimper*

Maybe someday after I give my Wallstreet G3 Powerbook a decent burial...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave wrote:
The new Macs (Intel Chip) will run Mac and Windows. Use "boot camp" from Apple (free) to install Windows on your Mac and live large as a computer "switch hitter." Run Windows for Audition and the Mac side for all the other stuff.


The big BUT however is that "Boot Camp" is only available as a limited time Beta release. The final version is going to be a part of OS X 10.5 Leopard and that's not due for release until the end of this year.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also might want to check with Sweetwater about one of their Creation Station's. I use one and it's completely quite. It sit's right on top of my desk beside my mic and you can't even hear it at all. Plus they're built strictly for audio and their warranty is great as well. Just another option for ya.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
Dave wrote:
The new Macs (Intel Chip) will run Mac and Windows. Use "boot camp" from Apple (free) to install Windows on your Mac and live large as a computer "switch hitter." Run Windows for Audition and the Mac side for all the other stuff.


The big BUT however is that "Boot Camp" is only available as a limited time Beta release. The final version is going to be a part of OS X 10.5 Leopard and that's not due for release until the end of this year.

Maiku.


Thanks Maiku...Quite true, quite true.

I guess I'm on the "glass half full" side of things. The beta is working well...and even more reasurring is the fact BootCamp will be part of the next OS release. As always everyone should evaluate their own comfort level and act accordingly. No one should do anything because I said so ... (I'm far from a computer expert). So I hope everyone understands I'm just pointing out possible options they might want to consider.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A word to the wise--

The G5 iMacs are VERY NOISY.

I would NOT recommend one in the studio. We have one as the family computer and the fan revs up and down in direct proportion to CPU usage.

I "got mines" a while back so they may be quieter now, but I wouldn't count on it.
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