VO-BB - 20 YEARS OLD!

[whalewtchr]

Most of you who have Audition have probably received the same urgent e-mail from Adobe regarding the Creative Cloud. The short story is for 600 dollars a year you get to access all of their software. Of course there are different levels one being one a for 9.99 a month. It seems this is the direction for a lot of items, you don't own them anymore, but rather you pay for access. Question for the group. Is this something you would do? Pay for access? In the case of Adobe Audition they are asking 120 dollars a year to have Adobe Audition in the cloud with all updates automatic...no more upgrades, just pay the monthly fee and always have the latest and greatest.
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jonahcummings

[vkuehn]

You have mixed some apples-and-oranges in your numbers. You can get Audition-CC for $9.95 a month if you currently own the CS6 product. That price is currently announced as good for only your first year. Then you would go to $19.95 per month. So long term, your continuing cost will be $240 per year.

Adobe has to be "gritting their teeth" as they walk through this. How much push-back will they get? Will they come up with a sweetner at the end of the 12 month period?

The $600 per year deal is for those who do not own a CS6 product now, and for the rest of us starting a year from now. If you own any CS6 (can be Photoshop or Dreamweaver or whatever, then you can have "the whole enchilade" for $19.95 per month or $240 for the first year.

I don't like the pricing... but Adobe has world class product. Remember, their bread-and-butter customers include the folks who create the photography for slick fashion magazines, and people doing big time video productions. Audio is a sideline for them in someways. Radio and Voice-Over hardly registers on their seismograph.

I've signed up for the one year at $19.95 per month. I want to play with some of their exotic product... and there is so much of it that I can't find time to download it... much less play with it and watch the video tutorials.

I go back somewhere in the 90's with Cool Edit 96. I'm hooked on Audition. Anything that is in it's same class will cost a similar premium price to what Adobe charges. So I'll grumble about the price like a lot of other folks.

There are a few new features in AA-CC that make it nicer that CS6. That takes a little of the pain out of the monthly fee. Will I stay with the full package when the price goes up to $600 per year? I'll deal with that a year from now. I'm pretty much hooked on Photoshop also.

[ccpetersen]

Okay, here's why we're not jumping into the cloud just yet here at our studios. We use some fairly specialised plug-ins for some of the productions we do. Each time the Creative cloud "updates", it could mean that those plug-ins don't work, and if we're using cloud services, we can't exactly go back to a previous version and wait until the plug-in developers catch up. This is a much-discussed problem in video production circles. So, we're sticking with "home-based" installs of the Adobe products we use the most, for now.
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[Dayo]

I just got into Audition, so the only choice was the Creative Cloud version. I must say, I don't mind the pricing model. If you look at the cost of renting a single program (or A, as we must call them these days) - then it works out about the same as buying over two years. And you get the benefit of regular updates...no waiting for a new release.

We're moving from PC to Mac in the near future, so CC means we won't have to fork out for another version. All in all, it's good value for me and a small price to pay for such a major cog in my production factory.

Did I mention iit's a SUPERB piece of software?
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[Lee Gordon]

[Scott Pollak]

Like Lee, I go back to CE Pro 2.0 from around 2000 or '01. Still have it, and it runs like a champ on my Windows 7 Sony laptop. But I also have AA CS5.5 that I purchased a year or two ago, simply because I thought it was time to upgrade. It DOES have a few neat convenience features, but I use the two interchangeably.

As far as Adobe's Cloud, though, my wife subscribes to it for graphic programs such as Photoshop. When her computer crashed last year and she purchased a new one, it was WAY honkin' less expensive to go with Cloud rental than to purchase a new copy of Photoshop. For what she pays a month (I THINK it's $19.95?) it's worth it to her, plus I can add Photoshop (and any of her other programs) to my computer as well, if I like.
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[todd ellis]

well, i'm against it. for the sole reason that an "update" isn't always a good thing. i'm in the "if it ain't broke - don't fix it" camp. i've been through it too many times when software update means i'm down 1/2 the day or more trying to make my crap work & play nicely together again. i just don't have time for that. i'll watch from the sidelines & let the pioneers take the arrows.
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[Quicksilver]

I agree with Todd. I want control over updates and which version I run. I've been using CS5.5 for about a year now and love it but I still keep good ole Cool Edit Pro around for one feature, the auto play preview function when selecting a file to open. CS5.5 doesn't do that (or at least not that I can figure out) but it's a huge time saver when you need to pick bed or production element.
The thought of my software changing all the time would drive me nuts.

[vkuehn]

The update issue is a Draconian Dilemma! There was a time when an update to the operating system or two or three of your favorite programs was now-and-then, and each and every update made news in your favorite commentator columns in magazines, and you waited until "the heavy duty thinkers" tried it on a test machine and wrote about it.

Today when I get ready to shot down some nights, the machine instead starts installing Windows updates.. may 10, maybe 25, maybe 63! individual updates.

We think we have troubles. Have you noticed how computerized your doctor's office is, and the hospital? You are right in the middle of surgery and suddenly the anesthesiology computer screen goes blank and Microsoft begins pumping in upgrades while you are grasping for breath? Isn't that a pleasant thought.

The folks in the big commercial studios, particularly those also doing video, may have to be the main warriors with the software companies for us.

I'm not quite there yet, but my goal is to have a fleet of 4 interchangeable hard drives. About once a month make a full clone of the working main hard drive, put the clone on the shelf. When the software upgrade comes through automatically that cripples me, go to the shelf, pull the back-up from one or two (maybe three) months back an 'normalize' my machine... and make another clone of the GOOD version. Then fight the battle with the software people.

[Jeffrey Kafer]

I fall into the same category as Todd. My software works just fine. If I had "upgraded" from AA3.0 to 6.0, I would have lost all punch-n roll functionality because Adobe decided to remove the pre-roll feature.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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[Diane Maggipinto]

aa one-point-5 here. livin' in the past. working presently.
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[ccpetersen]

Given that I use Sony Vegas and Adobe AfterEffects for production, Soundforge for recording and mixing, moving to the cloud for an escalating amount of money, changes, and hassles just doesn't seem like a good way to use my resources.
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[vkuehn]

[Ben Amos]

When I "upgraded" my software, I moved from TwistedWave on a Mac to Cool Edit Pro 2.1. I know it, I love it, and I'm still learning cool stuff with it.

Part of the reason I'm hesitant to upgrade to a Mac is because I'd have to make the leap to the new AA CC.
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[Frank F]

It's a "NO" vote from me.

I still have way too many questions; including whether your recording engine will be on your computer or hosted on the net and you just have access to the "a"?

I like the control over having my editing programs on MY computer. To my personal "old school" way of dong things the cloud is not a convenience - it is a hindrance.

The cloud will dissipate and I will not regret the rain.

Frank F
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