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Best ultra-portable/lightweight preamp for Shure SM7b
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GunslingerWriting
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject: Best ultra-portable/lightweight preamp for Shure SM7b Reply with quote

Hello,

We have some very remote field projects upcoming and requiring the lightest, most compact gear possible for the packing-in process. Our voice talent strongly prefers a Shure SM7b and I'd be grateful to hear which preamp(s) of fine quality would best suit our severely limited space to/from the field.

Also, if you have suggestions for a similarly durable alternative to the SM7b for the talent's male, baritone voice (he swears by the Shure but realizes that another mic of equal travel durability and comparable sound-matching for his voice may exist...and might better suit some of the smallest pres available, given the Shure's strict gain requirements...).

Thanks, all, for any advice/guidance you may be able to provide!

Greg Germaine
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usbpre2, uncompromising, designed for field use
Micport Pro plus Cloudlifter, not as durable
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the USBPre2....clean and quiet, and built like a tank.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Soundgun and heyguido, for the USBPre2 endorsement. Am I correct that the lofty gain needs of the SM7b are well met by this preamp?

I checked online and couldn't find a definitive gain db spec/rating; would you happen to know?

Greg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 Listen to George.

80 db. Spec is in the manual close to the last page. It is online. Google it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Bob; I didn't think to look for the manual and, instead, checked some online reviews...where nobody seemed to have anything specific.

80 db is great.

Greg
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a USBPre 2 and I've run an RCA vintage 77 ribbon mic through it and got it peak at the -4db limiters. I'd recommend this puppy to anybody just for the limiters alone.

Another recommendation would be to get a Zoom recorder like H4N. It has 4 channels for recording, including XLR inputs and phantom power and it can be used standalone or as a USB interface.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, my favorite travel microphone is the Oktava MK 219 - Built like a tank, rejects room tone and noise, and oddly enough even without the optional Mike Jolly modification, has a sound that is quite reminiscent of a vintage Neumann.

here's a link to Mike Jolly's site and rest assured I don't get any kickbacks or finders fees.

http://www.oktavamodshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=30

The unmodded mics run around $175 on eBay (or less)

The modded ones are $300, sometimes a little cheaper from Oktavamod.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey JS, have you demoed the Michael Joly NT1a vs the MK 219?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of the modded Rode NT1A's which along with 37 other microphones will probably be going up for sale in the next year or so.

The mic is fine and it's actually very hard to hear any difference between it and my Neumann U87AI. I have several mics that have similar sounds, including a Telefunken AK47 and a Telefunken Copperhead and a Groove Tubes GT-67 with an NOS Seimens tube.

They all have very similar sounds, differing in mid range bumps, etc.

But the big difference with these microphones is that they pick up everything; mouth noise, room tone, etc.

Which is why I mention the Oktava 219 as being a solid choice for a road microphone. It actually sounds very similar to all of these mics, but for whatever reason, less room pickup , mouth noise, etc.

The thing these days is that there are a ton of microphones that can and do deliver on the "Neumanesque" promise at almost all price points. Some requiring a little eq'ing and others may have slightly higher self-noise, etc.

Perhaps the problem is that we have too many choices these days.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can say that again! I have been looking for a mic for audiobook narration, as my modded NT1a really picks up mouth noise, and seems a hair harsh for long-form narration. I also wanted to find something that was in the same neighborhood as the NT1a as far as self noise goes.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jsgilbert wrote:


Another recommendation would be to get a Zoom recorder like H4N. It has 4 channels for recording, including XLR inputs and phantom power and it can be used standalone or as a USB interface.



Thank you for that bit of information. I knew the H4N is highly rated as a recording device, but I had not realized it could serve as an interface.

There is is big jump in price and I assume quality from the Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 or the PreSonus 22VSL all the way to the USBPre 2. How would you rate the Zoom as an interface device compared to the Focusrite and Presonus devices.

Is there something that fits price-wise between the low end devices and the USBPre 2? And something giving improved quality over the lower end devices. The USBPre 2 would be a big jump for me right now.... but I need to add a device so I have redundancy. I thought my mine was headed for the repair shop last week.... but it was a false alarm.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tellin' ya. The Propellerhead Balance rocks. It's nice and clean and relatively low in the color department, has no driver issues, has a great physical interface, and works on Mac and PC. I picked one up for $245. I've seen them recently sell on eBay for $175.

There is always the Scarlett 2i2 (as mentioned) or the MicPort Pro.

If you just want a backup though, you could just get a Lexicon Alpha. I know a certain pro who makes a killer living, and has used that interface for years professionally. You would, however, need a preamp with that one, as it's preamp is massively weak and the unit doesn't supply phantom power.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ref; Vk threadjack... lol

I use a Motu Microbook II. Quality pre, a hint of color. Very small and portable. Built like a brick. Also one of the few in this price range that has a quality dedicated line in for outboard preamps.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob Stevens wrote:


Ref; Vk threadjack... lol



I made myself go sit in the corner for a time out over that. Rolls Eyes

What changed in my world recently was moving to an EV RE-20. Like the SM7B, this thing has lower output so I am working at the upper end of the gain range. So my thinking is: Keep what I now use and let it become the backup, and if I am going to buy something new, move up a half-a-step or a full step.

I look at the USBPre2 as an eventual goal.... but haven't convinced myself I'm financially ready to move up a step-and-a-half in one jump.

I like the description about "built like a tank". I don't do it often but I sometimes get roped into recording a town hall meeting, a lecture, or a pipe organ concert. Tough and Portable makes my ears stand tall.
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