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Drew · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:16 am Post subject:

When a job appears on V123 that acutally offers a rate within those guidelines, I'll certainly quote them. How often is any client's budget even close to those suggested by V123? It's rare.
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tackerman · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:19 am Post subject:

Deirdre · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:27 am Post subject:

Those are close in places to union SESSION rates for talent.
Usage fees come on top of session fees for a union job.

(Also for a union job, the client pays another 14.3% to the union health and retirement fund, all taxes, any agent's fees, and bookkeeping fees.
This adds something like 30% to the "fee" paid to the talent.)

It will be interesting to see what happens at V123 as a result of these price recommendations. It's not the $100 radio VO, but it's actually still a very nice deal for the client.
That being said-- I know there are far too few people looking for professional Voice talent who willing to assess its real worth. There will always be situations where clients won't cough up $50 for a good VO.
I hope things like this price structure will shake 'em up and wake 'em up a little.
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tackerman · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:31 am Post subject:

Hart · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:48 am Post subject:

Interactive Voices, now just voices.com, recently revised their rates as well.
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Drew · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:57 am Post subject:

And when BOTH actually start insisting that clients offer gigs within those guidelines or they can't post, I'll take their "rate suggestions" seriously. At this juncture, they're just a humorous paradox.
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Hart · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:

I see it differently Drew. I don't see where or how those companies can "insist". I suppose they could, but it wouldn't make good business sense for them to do so.

The paying voice talent roster has to stop applying for these gigs at bottom feeder rates in order to affect any overall change in the respective sites and I don't see that happening.

Doesn't bother me too much to be honest with you since I don't believe they are any competition to me. I just try to find my work elsewhere, although I do apply for the odd gig at IV since I still have a membership there...for now.
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Drew · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:14 am Post subject:

Actually, we see it similarly. The paradox is that these services suggest those rates, but fall far short of attracting clients who offer them. My point is why insult my intelligence when that's not what these services are really all about. As Tom wrote, makes ya wanna say, "WTF?"
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Hart · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:46 am Post subject:

anthonyVO · 14th Avenue Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 1470 Location: NYC

It's actually an idea whose time has come. I appreciate the effort. It will eventually catch on and the talent will start demanding their worth. On the flip side though, it might just spawn yet another bargain-basment vo bid website. But who knows for sure.

-Anthony

Tom Greenlee · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:39 am Post subject:

It seems to me that even if every client started using those guidelines for their budget entry on the posts, the talent bidding on the jobs are still the same talent that regardless of what the budget says, they bid 10 bucks...or 50 dollars or whatever price they think will get them the job. We all never know what people are bidding. If we audition for a spot that says $250 budget, and we as vo talent bid accordingly, there are still the people out there that are going to bid way below that rate. So....I don't see how this is going to change much. As long as it's set up to be a bidding war, nothing will change. The only difference is, we will see higher budget dollar amounts in the job postings. but in actuality nothing has changed. It will be all show. Just my opinion.
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Pam · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:29 am Post subject:

Interesting post. Thanks for putting the link up Tom but they lost me on step 1. "Stablish"???? WTF?

dhouston67 · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:23 am Post subject:

mcm · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:38 am Post subject:

If the new prices are noisily recommended, and people continue to low-ball, I would think that would be a good red flag for the client that the talent doesn't think very highly of themselves and perhaps they the client shouldn't either. On the other hand, if the client doesn't care, then you would probably do well to stay away from them anyway.

Wow, my back hurts from that bit of logic.