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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Yes, a $12 solution would be sweet... but I see only one plug for a microphone on my FastTrack (a plug for the mic, a plug for the headphones, and a plug for a guitar, if I go by the little drawing that's above it...) (I like equipment that uses hieroglyphics for clarity...)
Thanks, though, JS! _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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jsgilbert Backstage Pass
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I guess I just assumed you couldn't use both at the same time. Which fast track do you have? I would think JS is right if you can use both inputs simultaneously. You'd just need a mic with a 1/4" like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000095SAP
It has a switch built in. You'd just have to set up 2 tracks in the DAW and enable input monitoring on both. Then just turn the mic on to talk. You would need a headphone splitter or amp so you could talk to each other.
It wouldn't sound awesome, but it's not for recording so who cares JS FTW on keeping it simple! |
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Veddy interesting...
I already have a headphone splitter, and we have two sets of headphones.
And I have this FastTrack:
So now we're thinking all I need is another mic (that can fit into that tiny guitar hole)...? Then do I just record as normal? And flip a switch on the mic when I want to talk?
It can't be that easy, can it? _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. I thought that interface was only one input and you had to switch between the instrument and mic. I was incorrect. That is two-input, meaning you can record both inputs at the same time. You don't HAVE to record both, but it is capable of it.
So, yes, you can just get either a dynamic mic that plugs into the instrument jack or a dynamic mic and an XLR to 1/4" transducer.
Here is the kicker. There isn't a preamp on that second input. So that you definitely can't use a condenser mic (or any mic that requires phantom power), and the mic might have a very low input signal. That jack is expecting a signal that has already been "preamplified" so it won't amplify the signal.
For recording, that would be a terrible setup. For just a talkback, it could work just fine.
If I remember correctly, BestBuy used to sell a Samson mic with a built in cable that had a 1/4" end that also had a switch built in. Maybe you could just pick one of those up, try it, and if it doesn't work just return it. |
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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OK, here's another possibly stupid question: I want to get an Apogee mic to go with my iPad as a travel rig. Can I use that mic as a talk-back mic? _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Asking that question gave me an idea. You can do the talkback for FREE right now!
All you need to do is this:
1. Open your regular DAW and set it up as normal.
2. Open ANOTHER DAW (download Audacity or Studio One FREE) and set it up like this:
a. DAW Input - Built-In Microphone
b. DAW Output - Fast Track
3. Set up a track in your second DAW and arm the track to record. Then Enable Input Monitoring (if you use Studio One Free, you click the arm record button, and then there is a small button to the right that has a little speaker symbol. It will turn blue when it is enabled).
Now just go back to your other software and record as usual. Your built-in mic in your Mac is now a talkback mic. If you want to mute it, just disable the "Input Monitoring" on the second DAW.
What you have just done is turn your computer into a mixer with a built in talkback mic No buying anything. I even tested it before posting. Works great.
This will also work with the Apogee MiC. You just set the Apogee MiC as the input of your second DAW instead of the built-in mic on the Mac. The bonus with the Apogee MiC (or other USB mic) is that most of them have a gain control, which means you could turn it on and off without having to go into a separate software program.
I'm glad you didn't spend $300 to make this work...since you could do it for free. Woohoo! |
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/download/LineIn.zip
Download and install that.
Set input to built in microphone, output to Fastrack,click the button to turn mic on and off. Jason FTW, although I would have gone for a cheap kareoke mic into the guitar input just as well (which is very much preamped, btw) as JS suggested. _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I still think the karaoke mic would be a rockin' fix. It would give you a physical on/off switch.
I guess I need some schooling on the preamp. The specs on the interface say it only has one pre. Is there a gain circuit that is not considered a preamp, but still operates as one? I'm only asking so I don't misinform someone again. |
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Kristin Lennox Flight Attendant
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Omigosh, you guys rock so hard -- THANK YOU!
I'm definitely trying this tomorrow! _________________ Always look on the bright side of life.
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JJ Wright
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