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Lee Gordon
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| bobsouer wrote: |
On the other hand, like you, I like redundancy. |
I like redundancy, too, also. 
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DougVox
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In addition to that, I, too, like redundancy as well.
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Rob Ellis
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I like, positively regard, and am favorable towards redundancy as well as being in favor of it. |
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heyguido
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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What they said.
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NorthEndVoice
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Twice (at least) |
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jaug44
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All of my demos and all work done up to this point for me has been done on a $400 Blue Baby Bottle. I too have never had a client or studio inquire about the mic I was on. That being said, I've wanted one of these for awhile and the price at least makes me feel good about blowing a ridiculous amount of $$$ for something 99.9% of clients will never ask about....lol. Bonus..I got a signed copy of Joe Cip's new book....hopefully in those pages it'll tell me how to make Joe Cip $$$
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ricevoice
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| Rick Riley wrote: | | True, but knowing you sound technically, the best you can, offers added confidence. And anything that might provide added confidence in a world where you're throwing yourself out daily to compete with others whose skills are formidable as well, is certainly worth investigating. |
^ This!
And while I agree that it's extremely unlikely that any studio is even going to inquire about what mic you're using, and you may well have many very happy clients that are satisfied with your work using a $300-500 mic, you have no way of knowing how many gigs you didn't get because the mic you have doesn't flatter your voice as much as you think it does and that audition you were sure you nailed just didn't have the right sonic texture to it. Probably not a big deal for the P2P jobs (where many of the competing auditions are going to be recorded with substandard equipment), but for agent auditions where the competition is fierce, I think every little edge helps.
I can say, I have a Rode NTK (with a NOS tube) that I really liked, and made a decent living with. But when I got my 416 about 4 years ago, my business went up to the next level. Similarly, when I upgraded my pre early last year from a dbx 286a to a Focusrite ISA 430 MKII, I noticed an increase in bookings and billings shortly thereafter. Now, anecdotal evidence on this stuff is tough to draw conclusions from because there are other factors at play, especially if you're in the earlier part of your career... I'm still at the point where I think I'm improving at my craft every week, my learning curve is still going upward. So it could be that I was just naturally submitting better reads due to practice and professional growth, and the timing of the equipment upgrades was just coincidence. Or, back to Rick's point, maybe I was giving better reads because I was more confident in what I was able to provide clients. Either way, I'm really happy I pulled the trigger and got my recording chain up to where I thought it needed to be.
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Chuck Davis
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I did have one occasion where an engineer, Xavier from Sunspots, mentioned that he thought the 416 would be a better fit for me than the 415 I was on at the time. It's really a slight difference though. I betcha if I had said I was on a 416 he might have not made the same observation.
I also agree and think that redundancy is a good thing...and I like it too.
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Bruce
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I had another voice actor in here for an ISDN session a couple of weeks ago and the engineer asked if he was on a 416, which he was. I'm sure a lot of tech people can tell, and many of us who work in front of the mic, but producers? Probably not a lot.
I must admit I can really tell when movie sound people are using 416 type mics versus lav mics. There's a push in the low mids that just wouldn't be there otherwise.
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captain54
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| Bruce wrote: | I admit I can really tell when movie sound people are using 416 type mics versus lav mics. There's a push in the low mids that just wouldn't be there otherwise
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Unless you eq it.
Mike Sommer, in a thread on this board a while back, figured a setting that EQ matched a Rode NTG 3 to a 416
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Jason Huggins
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| But the NTG3 is still $700, so if the sound you want is the 416, why not spend the extra $100 and have the exact sound instead of chasing it with a different mic and EQ? I prefer to just record, edit and send it out the door. |
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Bish
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There's no math in VO!!!
However, EQing a $700 mic to make it sound like the $800 one you wanted seems a little redundant... unless, of course, you like the Rode for itself and just want it to be different on occasions.
My 416 is on the FeDex truck... delivery tomorrow.
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samowry
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| Well you can find ebay specimens for as little as $400-$600 so the eq could come in handy there. |
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Chuck Davis
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EQ'ing the NTG to sound like the 416 is mostly just rolling off a little low end. It's a great mic. Fantastic for traveling with the handy "pipe bomb" case that TSA finds so entertaining. George's comparison showed that the Senny has a bit more presence/top end than the Rode. Comparing graphs only. He didn't have the mic in the video. Personally, I can't hear the high end difference
here.
(I've also played in loud bands for 35 years)
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melissa eX
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| Doug owes me a keyboard. |
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