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Fireside Grizzly
Joined: 07 Apr 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Western, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:59 am Post subject: Shure, Sennheiser, AT, Blue... thoughts |
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This weekend is my "test drive" mics weekend. I have a small budget, but have faith I can find a decent mic in my range. I have read as much as I could find on mics (from an amateur's perspective at this point) and narrowed it down to 4 mics I can currently afford that I think have good potential. If any of you have experience or knowledge about these mics that can help inform my evaluation process I would appreciate it very much. I should say I'm not looking for a mic to add any warmth, but possibly bring out high tones in my voice. My plans are to primarily use it for narration. These made my list.
Blue Bluebird condensor
Shure SM27 condenser
Sennheiser MK4 condenser
AT4040 condenser _________________ I am impelled, not to squeak like a grateful and apologetic mouse, but to roar like a lion out of pride in my profession. -John Steinbeck |
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Bill Campbell DC

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AT4040 or Studio Projects B1. _________________ www.asapaudio.com |
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Scott Pollak The Gates of Troy

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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AT 2035
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Of that list I'd go AT4040.
OFF that list I'd go CAD e100s or Shure PG42 or Rode NT1 (not NT1-a) _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Modded NT1a  |
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Fireside Grizzly
Joined: 07 Apr 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Western, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your responses. I've done a bit more researching and I think I will need to bump the Bluebird and add the CAD e100s to my list. However, a lot of reviews mention how great it is with a male voice. Is there any reason it wouldn't do as well with a female voice? In my research process, I found that you, Scott, had posted a rave review of the CAD e100s. The CAD is slightly above my budget, but if it sounds as good as it's reviews say it does I will try to figure out how to make up the difference. _________________ I am impelled, not to squeak like a grateful and apologetic mouse, but to roar like a lion out of pride in my profession. -John Steinbeck |
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sdaeley17 Club 300

Joined: 04 Sep 2013 Posts: 338 Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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What's your budget range, Fireside? I'm guessing $300 based on your choices, but the CAD isn't much more and can be had at both B&H photo video and zen pro audio for 359.00 with free shipping (zen pro includes a free CAD cable, and will even throw in a CAD pop filter for another $10 bucks
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/667336-REG/CAD_E100S_Equitek_E100S_Supercardioid_Large.html
http://www.zenproaudio.com/cad-e100s
I've heard great things about the Sennheiser MK4, but if you get it's proprietary shockmount, that'll set you back another $100, $30-$40 than the cad package with it's integrated shockmount and all the trimmings!
Best of luck in your search! _________________ "There's Magic all around us; you just have to see it. And the most wonderful Magic of all, is just bein' alive." -Uncle Montork, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe |
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heyguido MMD

Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive me for being contrary, but I think the Bluebird is underrated on the female voice....
And I'd be happy to share a spare at an affordable price.
PM me to work it out.
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Bish 3.5 kHz

Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Posts: 3738 Location: Lost in the cultural wasteland of Long Island
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Keeping to the list supplied... and allowing for the fact that you're substituting the Blue for the e100s... I'd go for the e100s
I've never had a good experience with AT mics (many have though). I cannot take Blue seriously... to me, they seem to be an exercise in style and marketing (sorry Don) to catch the kids at Guitar Center etc. I have no personal experience with the Shure & Senny. But I do have the CAD and love it (I'm a male tenor & I know female VOs who have bought it and love it).
Keep in mind that you can easily call the supplier and establish the return policy. Auditioning the mic in your environment should be the best way to answer your questions. If you buy a name microphone, resale at minimal loss should be no issue. _________________ Bish a.k.a. Bish
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todd ellis A Zillion

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:23 am Post subject: |
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i, on the other hand, have had excellent experiences with AT - i have a 2020 in my travel rig and use a 4050 all the time in studio & love the way my voice sounds on it.
so --- there you have that. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Fireside Grizzly
Joined: 07 Apr 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Western, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I am appreciating all the continued input. Sdaeley, you are correct on the budget, but hell, I could go without some groceries to make up the difference if I like the e100s, right?
I've narrowed my list based on price, features, and online reviews. The only reason the AT4040 is still on the list is reviews. When I first started training last fall/winter I bought an AT 2500USB to "learn + practice". It sounded decent at first (even though it's a cheap USB), but then without warning, dropping, misuse or abuse it developed a horrible buzz/hum that won't go away regardless of placement, computer fan isolation, sound treatment, etc. (there are Amazon reviews describing the same experience) I also have to get uncomfortably close to it for any kind of decent voice pickup. So it has left me not so impressed with my first AT experience. I am trying to remain open, but do have that bias.
I was willing to drop the bluebird from the test list once I found a few reviews that said the neck is weak and can potentially break. Doesn't sound so good. But the reviews on the sound for it are still really great. _________________ I am impelled, not to squeak like a grateful and apologetic mouse, but to roar like a lion out of pride in my profession. -John Steinbeck |
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ccpetersen With a Side of Awesome

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The only Blue I've ever played with is a Snowball, and I reserve it for use in yelling scenes. It takes that kind of abuse really well.  _________________ Charter Member: Threadjackers Local 420 |
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chuckweis Contributor IV
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Fireside Grizzly wrote: |
I was willing to drop the bluebird from the test list once I found a few reviews that said the neck is weak and can potentially break. Doesn't sound so good. But the reviews on the sound for it are still really great. |
I've owned a Bluebird for a couple years and the thing about the "weak neck" sounds like it must be from people who've been rough on the mic. In everyday, normal use, plugging and unplugging cables, taking it in and out of the shock mount, in and out of its box, I've never had a problem with such a thing.
And yes, it really does sound nice. It's always survived the cut through my many times of buying and selling other mics. |
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Fireside Grizzly
Joined: 07 Apr 2014 Posts: 16 Location: Western, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to thank everyone for their thoughts on this. I ended up trying an MK4, Bluebird, and e100s. I eliminated the MK4 rather quickly. It has been hard for me to decide between the Bluebird (which I really do like) and the e100s. But having had a number of friends listen, it seems like the e100s is to be the "winner". Thanks again. _________________ I am impelled, not to squeak like a grateful and apologetic mouse, but to roar like a lion out of pride in my profession. -John Steinbeck |
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