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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:03 pm Post subject: Bass trap question |
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At the moment, I have two bass traps, each about two feet tall. My booth is about seven feet tall. I assume the ideal place to mount them, if I'm going with only those two, is roughly head height, which would be between four and six feet off the ground. But I don't know this to be a certainty. Is there some other way I should be determining where to place them? Thanks. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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most bass traps are better placed low and in corners (in front of where your mouth projects). That said, listen closely to your booth, it will tell you what you need and where. Place the traps where you are thinking, recorde a few minutes, and listen.
Move the traps and repeat the above scenario. Do it again until you find the location which best suits your needs and booth.
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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Foog DC

Joined: 27 Oct 2013 Posts: 608 Location: Upper Canuckistan
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I was poking about John Sayers' forum ( http://johnlsayers.com ) trying to get some answers for my own booth build and acoustic treatment questions and I vaguely recall someone saying that the tri-corners (i.e., the top corners or bottom corners where three wall/ceiling/floor surfaces intersect) are more critical than the dual corners (where two walls/surfaces intersect). This kinda fits with what Frank is saying, and I have learned that Frank is... well, learned  |
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ccpetersen With a Side of Awesome

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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Frank speaks rightly. I actually managed it for a while with triangular foam pillows, just to experiment with what would work where before sinking money into more expensive solutions. _________________ Charter Member: Threadjackers Local 420
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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LASoundPanels makes a very affordable tri-corner bass trap
http://lasoundpanels.com/our-panels
If you've got the space for them they provide huge bang for the buck.
You'll get the most out of your 2' tall traps if you place them at microphone level, since they will also act as broad-band absorbers. _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Frank F Fat, Old, and Sassy

Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 4421 Location: Park City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Soundgun: "...since they will also act as broad-band absorbers." |
Yes, if that is what you are looking for Lee: Broadband absorbtion.
Small rooms/booths are notorious for being bassy and boomy; mids and highs are usually not a problem. Transients may also pose a potential concern in a small cubbyhole.
Use your ears.
A well placed bass trap will decrease the boominess and save your sound from the mud of low frequencies. Listen to what your recording enclosure needs rather than accept the suggestions of others who have NEVER heard the inside of your space. And yes, that includes me.
A lot depends upon wether you are sitting or standing, desk or copy stand, glass or drywall (or MDF or whatever)...
You can find out more about your space by listening rather than reading others opinions.
A couple peices of foam squares placed one to two inches from the backing wall/hard reflective surface - at mic height will attenuate the broadband reflections (if any) easily and the foam is much less unsighlty or bulky.
Frank F _________________ Be thankful for the bad things in life. They opened your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to before. email: thevoice@usa.com |
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to everybody for the input. Just by way of background, the booth as it currently stands is practically square (37" wide by 41" deep) and 80" high (all interior dimensions) and all the walls are drywall with no acoustic treatment yet applied. The room sounded pretty nice when all the walls consisted of exposed Roxul, but now it sounds like a cave.
In addition to the two bass traps, which are corner traps, I also have four sheets of Auralex-like material that are 20" x 31", four sheets that are 16" by 16", and one sheet that is actual Auralex that is 24" x 28", and I have four furniture blankets. Because the booth is only as wide as the doors, I have, essentially, only the back corners in which to mount the traps. I figured I'd install those first and then arrange the rest of the foam in the remaining available space.
Based upon your responses, it sounds like I'm not off the mark in thinking those traps can be mounted at approximately microphone height (I'll either work standing or sitting on a tall bar stool, depending on how cramped it gets in there) and if it turns out I need even more traps, I can always add them. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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Foog DC

Joined: 27 Oct 2013 Posts: 608 Location: Upper Canuckistan
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Dammit Lee, you already have all your drywall up? Looks like I'm not going to beat you after all. Sure you don't want to take a break, sit back and rest on yer laurels a week or two?  _________________ Andrew Fogarasi
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: |
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I started this project over a year ago. I've been resting on my laurels long enough. I need to be finished before Faffcon. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
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Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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