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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:09 am Post subject: USB vs S/PIDF |
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So, most Macs have an optical input and output hidden inside the headphone and input 1/8" jacks. Some preamps and some interfaces have optical outputs. So I thought to myself...does S/PIDF or USB sound better? They are both a digital transmission of sound, so they should both be technically identical, but has anyone tried to send the optical signal into the Mac instead of sending it USB via an interface?
I know that the converter in a preamp with an optical output might not be as high quality as a dedicated interface, but what if a preamp had killer conversion? Has anyone send the Isa One Digital S/PIDF signal into a Mac via the S/PIDF input? That would potentially save you from needing the external gear (providing you don't need the additional inputs and functionality that you interface affords).
Just thinking out loud and wondering if anyone has messed with this.
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vkuehn DC

Joined: 24 Apr 2013 Posts: 688 Location: Vernon now calls Wisconsin home
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:18 am Post subject: |
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For the first time in my life, I have an "optical circuit" at work. Not in the studio. I wanted to watch TV and listen via a headset. Cable box had audio out but the picture is processed by the TV and that delays it. I needed audio out of the TV and the only out it provided was optical.
It works just fine. I have no way of judging whether audio out via another format would be equal or better or worse.
I have ONE COMMENT: Keeping the optical "cable" in place (both ends) is a mechanical circus. It doesn't "SNAP IN PLACE'... it just kind of nests there. A little electrical tape here, a little electrical tape there keeps it connected.
My experience does not give me great desires to find a way to use optical in my studio. If I can't plug it in, disconnect and then re-plug with convenience and reliability.... I have a hard time finding enthusiasm. |
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Theoretically it should make zero difference to the audio quality. I've used the technique as a problem solving solution in studios were Firewire or USB cause too many recording glitches.
I've made use of that feature built into Mac Minis (sadly, no longer in Macbooks or iMacs) in a number of studios. When USB and Firewire proved unreliable in one studio, going optical was the solution. In conjunction with a Vorsis M1 and Hosa ODI312 adapter it's a very slick solution. A few preamps already have the optical outputs onboard.
Another use case is connecting one's AES I/O from a Zephyr to Mac Mini for "self-bridging" purposes, eliminating gain matching and analog conversion.
Works a treat! Make sure you set the Wordclock source in your DAW to "external" or "SPDIF" or you'll have big problems, only caveat. _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
George Whittam
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Good to know. It's also good to know that the option is there if the necessity arrises. Maybe I'll pick up a cable and do an A/B and just record simultaneously into two DAWS, one with USB and the other with S/PIDF both out of the Audient iD22. I have Adobe Audition CS6 and CC so that would eliminate the potential that different DAWs sound different, making the only variable the different transmission mediums. |
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FinMac Lucky 700

Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Posts: 707 Location: In a really cool place...Finland!
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: RME and digital outs to mac mini |
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Know a couple of guys who run a tosilink cable from their RME interfaces into a mac mini. Result is a Really clean signal!
One is the RME ADI-2 and the other is a babyface. Didn't get the babyface myself because of the break out cable and the complicated software.
Tried using the iD22 but there was some problem. Steve, the designer of the iD22 suggested it was better to use the usb rather than the digital out.
Perhaps I had it configured incorrectly but Steve knows best. _________________ www.scottsvoiceover.com - An American voice in Finland
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Once advantage of Toslink is there are no electrical connections since it's purely optical. One less ground-loop to deal with! _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
George Whittam
GeorgeThe.Tech
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