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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

The noise from the CAD is lower in frequency than the 416 which has a lot of higher frequency self-noise. To me, the 416 noise is more noticeable.

The CAD noise might be more of the room noise. The CAD is supercardioid but the 416 might be that much more focused. The CAD is more detailed across the spectrum, which is part of the reason why I hear mouth noise with the CAD (I have this issue with mine too).

Listening on (Sennheiser!) cans, I preferred the 416.

Now that I'm listening on my Yammy speakers - I prefer the CAD.
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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:04 am Post subject: RePost of audio

Here is a second version of the 2 mics. Both are going through the Audient iD22 for micpre and converter.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/03ifna3hx0igqn8/2%20mics%20-%20Raw%20audio%20and%20Processed%20audio.wav?dl=0

There is no HPF on the mics or the micpre. So the raw audio is not as clean as it would be with the filter on.

There are 2 versions of the audio, the raw file and then the processed file. Did not try to clean the files up. They were normalized to -3dB and then I applied processing (but without any editing). So you can hear the original raw audio and the processed audio but with editing.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. Appreciate you taking the time.

Think I have decided on which mic I will be using and that is the 416. Smile

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Bill Campbell · DC Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 621

All samples sound a bit muddy and boxy to me. Or you using a booth?
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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:33 am Post subject: In the booth

Thanks for the feedback Bill.

Yes, these were recorded in my booth. Perhaps the mic position needs adjustment.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

Yeah, that CAD sounds like one of the ones that, shall we say, got through QC a bit too hastily. It's noisy.
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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:54 am Post subject: Thanks Lance

Thanks for the feedback on the CAD. Sounds like I should send it back for another one. It took a long time to get here, so it means it will take a really long time to send it back and get a replacement.

But it is good to know that it should work better than this one does !
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

This is my CAD going through a Mackie VLZ4 with the HPF on the Mackie and the gain pretty hot. There's some room noise around -65dB on the pauses but there isn't the hiss/self noise I'm hearing your previous samples. You sound great on the 416 - rock it!

http://lanceblairvo.com/CAD_Sample.wav
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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: Thanks again Lance

Thanks Lance for the sample. That shows clearly that there is a NOISE issue with my CAD.

Thanks also for the compliment. Me thinks I am happy with the 416 Smile

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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Lance Blair that CAD sounds goooooood.

Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

Thanks Rob. I bought a very early one. Smile

Serial #1860.

Scott, glad you're happy with the 416!
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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:27 am Post subject: +1

+1 one to what Rob said ! You sound really natural on the CAD, like we are in the same room Smile

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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta

Thanks!

The pres on the VLZ4 are minty fresh. Bought the Mackie 402VLZ4 for $99 just to use as a pre before hitting the Scarlett. Yeah, I know I'm going through two pres that way, but it makes a difference.

The CAD was also nice on the Focusrite ISA One, but the transformer on that is way too strong for voice. Great for instruments, though.

I record in a large room with wall to wall bookshelves, bass traps, and GIK Acoustic panels. It's not perfect, but I like the sound better than the booth situations I've used.
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Leslie Humble · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:54 am Post subject:

Another +1 on your sound on the CAD Lance. Great presence. It's the best I've heard the CAD sound.
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Bill Campbell · DC Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 621

Great sound Lance, one of the best I've heard posted on the site. I use the VLZ4/Scarlett/medium room combo too, with a 416. It's very natural.
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