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FinMac · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:10 am Post subject: Wiki Mic Shootout

Recently sold 4 mics and replaced them with 2 new ones. Smile

Would appreciate your feedback on this A/B test, thanks! This is raw audio normalized to -3dB. Micpre was the Triton Audio D20.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kynqla8putu8flb/Wiki%20A%3AB%20mic%20test.wav?dl=0

By the way, if anyone did not know, "Wiki" is a Hawaiian word that means "quick".
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SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:05 am Post subject:

Mic 2 for sure!
Mic 1 has some noise to these old ears.
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Bob Stevens · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:35 pm Post subject:

Ditto. Mic 2

Mic 1 seemed muddy to me. But what do I know, I'm deaf in one ear and can't see out of the other.
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FinMac · Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:19 pm Post subject: thanks!

Thanks gents for the feedback Smile

Still a bit undecided about which one to use, as I am still learning about how to use them. Am leaning towards no.2, but both will get used at some point.
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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

I'm guessing....that they are

#1-U87
#2-416

captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

Is Mic #1 returnable? Mic #2 much better, by far
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captain54 · Lucky 700 Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 744 Location: chicago

And.... The big Wiki reveal???
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FinMac · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:34 pm Post subject: Ta dah!

Was hoping for more guesses as to which mic was which, but...

Mic no. 1 is the CAD e100s, and mic no. 2 is the Sennheiser 416. So, Mr. Ellis you got one right! How did you recognize the 416 ?

Kind of like the 416 and will probably like it even more as time goes by Smile

Thanks to everyone for the feedback !
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SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject:

Was the high pass filter engaged on the CAD? If so, it might be the source of the noise.
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Lance Blair · M&M Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta

How close are you working each of those mics? The CAD was noisy and there were some mouth clicks too which I didn't hear on the 416 read.

Definitely the 416 here.
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FinMac · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:44 am Post subject: Thanks Lance

Thanks for the feedback Lance.

Worked the CAD about 7-8 inches away and the 416 about a foot away. Not set up to record them at the same time, so one was recorded just after the other using the same micpre and cables.

Did a gig about a week before on a 416 and that is where the engineer positioned it, about a foot away, so I tried the same and it seemed to be good.

How can I know if there is a problem with the CAD ?

It surprised me, in a negative way, that the noise level of the room tone was not greatly reduced, as I expected. Read from many CAD users, that when they plugged it in, they wondered if it was working as it was so quiet.

In my room, with my equipment, seems to be not much difference in noise level between the CAD and the 416.

A studio that I work with just recently got 2 CADs. Perhaps I can bring mine and compare it with theirs.

Appreciate your thoughts!
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SkinnyJohnny · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:14 am Post subject:

Mine is quiet...unless I engage the high pass filter. That same nasty noise comes into play when the filter is engaged. Was it engaged? That might be the problem.
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FinMac · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:34 am Post subject: Thanks for the tip!

Thanks Johnny for the tip.

Yes, the high pass filter was engaged. Will check it out Smile

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Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

Fin,

IMO if the high pass was engaged on the CAD, but there was no high pass cut on the 416, then it's not really an apples to apples comparison.

The CAD without the highpass will sound closer to the 416 IMO

FinMac · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:24 am Post subject: Ooops!

Good point Rob!

After checking the file it appears that there was no HPF on the Sennheiser.

Will recreate the test, but this time, both will be without HPF or both will have the HFP on the iD22 when recording.

Sorry about comparing apples with (your fruit of choice).
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