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heyguido MMD

Joined: 31 Aug 2011 Posts: 2507 Location: RDU, the Geek Capitol of the South
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7978 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:16 am Post subject: |
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I flunked the test. Several years ago I uploaded all of my music CDs onto my computer back when drive space was more costly and started at 128 Kbps mp3 conversion. I went to 160 Kbps after a while thinking there was a difference. Not really.
I listen to most of my old music collection on earbuds while I walk or on trips in the car, and both of those environments provide lots of audio fidelity challenges. So I'm thinking that for most of us, most of the time, it doesn't matter.
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todd ellis A Zillion

Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 10531 Location: little egypt
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:38 am Post subject: |
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i failed. listening on my fancy-day reference monitors.
i agree with bruce that MOST of the time - good enough is good enough. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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ConnieTerwilliger Triple G

Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3381 Location: San Diego - serving the world
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I got half of them correct listening on my small speakers. And the other half I picked the lowest quality. It had a lot to do with the density of the music in my case. The less dense, the easier it was to tell the difference. _________________ Playing for a living...
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Quicksilver Been Here Awhile

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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Interesting.
I got 3 out of 6. |
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Kim Fuller DC

Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Posts: 641 Location: Portlandish, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Failed. I got one right, with a couple chose middle quality and the rest lowest. |
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Rick Riley Flight Attendant

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 807 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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I listened and couldn’t tell the difference, HOWEVER, even though my computer is running through very efficient KRK VXT 4’s and a KRK 10 inch sub, it’s still a computer with audio being processed by a CPU, and being sent through an interface. AND, you don’t know the source of the sound, as to how it’s being processed on the ‘other side’.
Not to get all geeky here, but if you’re really into listening to detail, which High Definition audio provides, you’re listening through a lot better processing than your computer can offer. Chances are you have a high end Pre Amp, with a matched Amp, processing the original digital source. And HD Audio offers detail that you are not going to appreciate as much with a singular voice like Suzanne Vega’s as opposed to a full blown recording from the Moody Blues or Pink Floyd or a given Philharmonic performance.
I would consider the source on this test as taking out most of what HD has to offer. You can only replicate the source, and if you don’t know the quality of that, the overall end result of the test would be suspect. Record an AM radio station in MP3 and Uncompressed WAV and it’s still only going to offer the detail of an AM radio station.
If you’d like to stop by, I’ve got an Emotiva Pre and Amp processing a High Def CD player into a pair of Klipschorns that you’ll be able to tell the difference between an MP3 and uncompressed WAV pretty quickly. One cut from Dark Side of the Moon ought to do it. _________________ Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the Paramedics
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Mike Harrison M&M

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 2029 Location: Equidistant from New York City and Philadelphia, along the NJ Shore
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Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Rick Riley wrote: | it’s still a computer with audio being processed by a CPU, and being sent through an interface. AND, you don’t know the source of the sound, as to how it’s being processed on the ‘other side’.
I would consider the source on this test as taking out most of what HD has to offer. You can only replicate the source, and if you don’t know the quality of that, the overall end result of the test would be suspect.
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I completely agree.
And, anything from "Dark Side of the Moon" usually does it for me.  _________________ Mike
Male Voice Over Talent
I have taken leave of my sensors.
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Quicksilver Been Here Awhile

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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Good point Rick.
I'll second that any Pink Floyd makes excellent material for such tests. You might hear a lot of "still not sure, play it again" though
The Pink Floyd Laser Spectacular is still one of the coolest shows I've ever been to. |
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Scott Pollak The Gates of Troy

Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 1903 Location: Looking out at the San Juan mountains
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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There is probably no bigger fan of Pink Floyd than me.
However, in this case, I say "Shpongle"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP2hWvVyyUM _________________ Scott R. Pollak
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Rick Riley Flight Attendant

Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 807 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that was really cool Scott! I didn't know you still smoked. _________________ Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the Paramedics
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Darren Altman Cinquecento

Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 551 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Really interesting. I got 2/6 and as a VO and musician, I consider myself to have very good ears. What a tool!
So this opens up the debate about audio quality. I've been auditioning @ 192kbps and sending out my voiceovers to Radio producers @ 320 - even though the maximum ISDN quality is 128.
Does this mean that my 320 + 192 routine is an utter waste of time then, as the difference will be negligible? Especially if I can't tell the difference between an uncompressed WAV and 128kbps? _________________ https://www.darrenaltman.com/
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Dayo Cinquecento

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 544 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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I suspect your higher res file might stand up to aggressive processing better then the 128 Kbps version, Darren. Be interesting to do some tests on that though. _________________ Colin Day - UK Voiceover
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:26 am Post subject: |
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My ears are good for keeping my reading glasses from sliding down my face. Beyond that, not so much.  _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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