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Eddie Eagle
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I do like the Neve stuff. It's clean at very high levels and always has been. Highs have to be way out of range to distort with this pre.
As for our mystery friend. It's a Langevin CR-3A. NLA Made by Manley in California. Lots of great pro sound reviews. Mine is a California model from 1994. |
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Rob Ellis
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| Quote: | | As for our mystery friend. It's a Langevin CR-3A. NLA Made by Manley in California |
Whoa there gettin' fancy on us. |
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Jason Huggins
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Nice! Where on earth did you find that mic?? LOL 
It's good to have different tools for different jobs. I've been (for quite a while) trying to determine what LDC mic I should get to have as an alternative to the 416 for more intimate stuff. The 416 really doesn't capture the nuance (at least in my mind) like a LDC mic. Personally I wouldn't be looking for rare discontinued mics but I think it is a good sounding mic on your voice! Gotta love that pre  |
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Eddie Eagle
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Jason Huggins wrote: | Nice! Where on earth did you find that mic?? LOL
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I got lucky on finding the mic. Saw it for sale on Ebay and knew the history on these mics so I snatched it up prontopup! In shipping from the seller it got bounced around but the seller paid for it to be sent to Manley for service so it's good as new now.
An engineer I thread with occasionally calls it the 87 killer. Same capsule as the Manley Reference Mic. Different circuits. It can make vocals stand out with its presence. |
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Dayo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: My new Mystery Mic Sample |
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| DenaliDave wrote: | | Eddie Eagle wrote: | | www.tvradiovoice.com/MysteryMicSample.aif |
Neve stuff def. gives a "gritty" or "crunchy" or "edge" doesn't it? All of those words can't quite describe it...but when you hear the Neve sound, you know it. I personally really like it. I can see why people love those 1073s.
It's not distortion per-say...and it's not "noise" really either. It's maybe a crispness without being to sibilant?
Now on to the mystery mic...Hm. Tough, why do I get the impression we're being trolled and it's a really inexpensive mic and you're having fun with us? LOL LOL 
Seriously though -- I don't have a clue. |
I use a 1073 everyday. I wouldn't call it gritty or crunchy at all, but maybe I don't drive it hard enough for that flavour. Rich and buttery, yes.
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captain54
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| Jason Huggins wrote: |
It's good to have different tools for different jobs. I've been (for quite a while) trying to determine what LDC mic I should get to have as an alternative to the 416 for more intimate stuff. The 416 really doesn't capture the nuance (at least in my mind) like a LDC mic. |
Same here.. a never ending search.. the 416 is definitely not the be-all-end-all.. I just dusted off the Shure sm7b found a deal on an AKG 220 Perception.. (newer version)..I've used both as a diversion. .and gotten surprisingly good results with the SM7b for narration and instructional type things…
Believe it not, with the SM7b, and some EQ experimentation, the difference between it and the 416 was indistinguishable to some clients...
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DenaliDave
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| captain54 wrote: | | Jason Huggins wrote: |
It's good to have different tools for different jobs. I've been (for quite a while) trying to determine what LDC mic I should get to have as an alternative to the 416 for more intimate stuff. The 416 really doesn't capture the nuance (at least in my mind) like a LDC mic. |
Same here.. a never ending search.. the 416 is definitely not the be-all-end-all.. I just dusted off the Shure sm7b found a deal on an AKG 220 Perception.. (newer version)..I've used both as a diversion. .and gotten surprisingly good results with the SM7b for narration and instructional type things…
Believe it not, with the SM7b, and some EQ experimentation, the difference between it and the 416 was indistinguishable to some clients... |
If I EQ my RE-20, I've had people ask me what mic it is, and not believe me when I tell them it's a dynamic...AND the RE-20. If you set the switch to cut the low freq. it takes to EQ very well and looses that classic "RE-20" sound that people instantly recognize.
Despite how much I love tinkering...I think in the end I'd rather just pick up specific mics that require as little EQ as possible. That's probably why the U87 and 416 are so desirable...they sound great without having to do much to them!
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captain54
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| DenaliDave wrote: |
Despite how much I love tinkering...I think in the end I'd rather just pick up specific mics that require as little EQ as possible. That's probably why the U87 and 416 are so desirable...they sound great without having to do much to them! |
sounding "great" is really relative..
I don't really love tinkering honestly.. but putting all the switches on the SM7b itself, to flat.. adding a software Hi-Pass, adding a tad @ 100hz, cutting a tad @ 500, and finally adding a touch @ 2KHz,with a narrow Q, ( 10 minute process) and taking the foam windscreen off, it has enough sparkle to compare to the 416, but enough weight and ease on the ears to work for certain projects, where the 416 is weak...
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georgethetech
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Is that Zoom TAC thing a good A/D converter? I'm still searching for a good A/D that doesn't include a ton of bells n whistles no one needs and costs less than $500.
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DenaliDave
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| soundgun wrote: | | Is that Zoom TAC thing a good A/D converter? I'm still searching for a good A/D that doesn't include a ton of bells n whistles no one needs and costs less than $500. |
Well, it's got Burr Brown DACs. I've done a LOT of back and forth between it and my Apogee Duet Firewire, and it sounds a little more sterile than the Apogee. If you have a Mac, it's a good deal IMO for what you get. I have an iD22 now, so I'm finishing all my projects with the ZOOM and migrating over to the Audient.
The ZOOM uses the Burr Brown PCM4202 (A/D) and AKM AK4396 (D/A) chipsets.
For some perspective, the Mytek Stereo192 ADC uses the same A/D (analog to digital) chip, and it's going for $1,195 at ZenPro Audio:
http://www.zenproaudio.com/mytek-stereo192-adc
Now, I haven't tried to use an external pre with the ZOOM, and from what I can tell you can't totally bypass the preamps 100%. You can connect through the line-in via TRS, but even without adding gain from the pres, you're signal is still running through them. That's one of the main reasons I picked up an iD22 -- so I could TOTALLY bypass the preamp.
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