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Kristin Lennox
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject: Need Techie-Help... Reply with quote

Would any of you lovely Techie-Types be willing to listen to some samples of mine and try to identify the glitch in my audio...?

It's not happening at the moment, since I did the tried-and-true method of fixing everything by restarting my computer... But for a while there was a glitch, every so often (like every 60 seconds or so) in my recordings. In the waveform, it looks like it just shorts out, and if I splice both sides together, it sounds fine. But I obviously can't have that happening in remote sessions, so I want to figure out what it is -- is it software, cables, memory, my microphone, my M-Audio...

And I know you probably can't diagnose for sure just by listening... Smile But someone might recognize the glitch and say, "yep, that's a bad cable -- I had the exact same thing"... or something like that. Hopefully.

Let me know, and I'll send you the audio! And thank you in advance!
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of Course, put up a sample and we can try our darndest!
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had that happen before, in an isolated fashion, a few times.

I would only worry if it was happening on a more regular basis, like every couple of days or so.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I think I have it on soundcloud -- is that good enough for analyzing?

https://soundcloud.com/kristinlennox/klennox-glitch-aaaack
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I hear it. My best guess would be the buffer length. Sounds like the computer is having trouble keeping up with the speed of the recording. Try raising it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your recording setup? are you recording to an internal or external drive? And what's that drives present capacity?

buffer issues can be due to the drive being full or fragmented, a good cleaning can go a long way. (I use Diskwarrior on my Mac systems)
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My recording setup is: mic into my M-Audio FastTrack into my Mac, recording internally -- and I'm not sure what the capacity is at present, but I am sure the Mac could use a good cleaning and getting rid of old files... that never hurts.

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would start with an external drive to record to. I just recently picked up a 250Gb Solid State external drive to plug in via Thunderbolt.

(Previously I recorded to a firewire drive, and that worked fine as well)

I can record multiple tracks at once without a single hiccup.

I never recommend recording to the internal drive for any length of time, I have done it in a pinch, but having the machine work and record off the same drive can be iffy when you push it to hard. Or if it is near capacity.

An external drive should either be an SSD or something that spins at least 7200rpm. That should solve the issue.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kristin Lennox wrote:
My recording setup is: mic into my M-Audio FastTrack into my Mac, recording internally -- and I'm not sure what the capacity is at present, but I am sure the Mac could use a good cleaning and getting rid of old files... that never hurts.

Smile


One serious issue is hard drive SPEED... 7200 rpm is needed for audio.
there are other issues but this is one bottleneck you needn't have. It's not too get an external drive that will do this
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just replaced the internal hard drive of my macbook pro with a solid state drive -- HUGE improvement. It makes the 7200 RPM drives look sluggish. I'm seeing that the hard drive was holding the entire computer back.

I also have a WD "My Cloud" 4 Terabyte NAS (network attached storage) device that I backup to. It's handy because it works like my own personal Dropbox/iCloud/Google Drive. I can even save stuff from my phone/tablet to it anywhere in the world.

Now that I finally have it setup properly I can actually generate URLs/links to files on it to share with clients/colleagues. Supposedly there's a way for people to dump files onto it as well -- but I haven't played with that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should always be recording to a 2nd drive for sound.

System and apps on drive #1
projects and Files on drive #2

Musicians and composers keep a 3rd separate drive for their sample libraries.


Here's the hard-core setup.
http://www.johnhagley.com/blog/14151433/harddrive-setup-for-composers

I use 2 internal SSDs for my PT rig and my backups are standalone HDDs.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSD is a total game changer, making the old paradigm of recording to a separate drive obsolete (IMHO). As long as you are prudent about backing up and archiving old projects to keep it clean, you'll really never experience an issue of speed again. Seek times on SSD are insanely fast compared to a 7200RPM disk, and that's what makes the difference to what we do and how we experience the computer's responsiveness.
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Kristin Lennox
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So an SSD is different from an external hard drive...?

Oy. Off to google...
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SSD stands for "Solid State Drive". The entire hard drive or SSD is made up of memory chips is one way to think of it. No little shiny disks spinning round and round while little read/write heads scurry around finding the right place to read and right.

An SSD can be INTERNAL, an SSD can be EXTERNAL. When they came out they were rather expensive so we would buy a frugal, modest SSD and put programs on it so the program could run fast, and put small FILES of the SSD but put big data bases (and big sound files) on a traditional spinning mechanical drive.

There is still some premium on the cost of SSD as storage place, but it has become affordable. It cares not whether it lives in the house (the internal drive) or out in the garden shed (the external drive).

Why buy SSD? 1. FAST. 2. QUIET. (no clickety-clickety-click)
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, if I have an external hard drive, is there a reason to switch to an SSD?
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