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iannyc Been Here Awhile
Joined: 04 Oct 2016 Posts: 261 Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: TLM103 Vs. Sen416: which is more forgiving? |
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Hey gang, Im thinking of trading in my tlm103 for a sennheiser416 because my studio sound isnt air tight and I think the shotgun mic will be more forgiving of my imperfect noise floor. Thoughts??
Thanks!!
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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It will do what you need it to do. MKH50 is a much better mic, has a filter and a 10db pad but costs more than the 416. Most VOs choose the 416 based on Peer pressure, economic pressure and because it looks cooler. |
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iannyc Been Here Awhile
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Eddie Eagle M&M
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Lance Blair M&M
Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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There are also great noise removal tools out there. Some are pricey but worth it.
A cheap solution is this Waves NS1. It's now $59.
http://www.waves.com/plugins/ns1-noise-suppressor#ns1-noise-suppressor-overview-and-demo
I wouldn't use on something for broadcast, but for corporate or e-learning it's great in a pinch. Just don't set it above 5 (out of 100) or it sounds heavily processed. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too!
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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iannyc wrote: | It looks like it costs about the same, no? About $1200?
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Looks a good deal to me. Seriously is a fabby mic. On air, sounds like this ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upgc3cikaNU
OK, may be not the best recording in the world. |
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Rob Ellis M&M
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Despite it's extreme directional quality, IME the 416 is not completely immune to outside noise.
It might be somewhat better at rejecting noises of certain frequencies and from certain directions, but it's still not a foolproof solution.
I would suggest purchasing one from a vendor with a good return policy, then try it out in your space. |
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11049 Location: Portgordon, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:49 am Post subject: |
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Voice Over priorities.
You.
Room.
Mic
In that order. |
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sdaeley17 Club 300
Joined: 04 Sep 2013 Posts: 338 Location: Port Orchard, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:05 am Post subject: |
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The 416 is a great mic, but it doesn't work for everybody, and it's got a learning curve. It took me a year to be satisfied with mine!
I've never used one, but voice actors I've spoken to who have the 416 and a 103 say the 103 "mostly stays in the box." because it's too sensitive or the studio asks for a 416. It's one of the few things that keeps me from trying the Neumann myself.
Rob and Philip offer sage advice: Rent to try, or Improve your room.
Good luck in solving your sound issues! _________________ "There's Magic all around us; you just have to see it. And the most wonderful Magic of all, is just bein' alive." -Uncle Montork, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe |
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Eddie Eagle M&M
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:52 am Post subject: |
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sdaeley17 wrote: | Improve your room.
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Always the first thing to do. |
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Eddie Eagle M&M
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sdaeley17 wrote: | Improve your room.
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Always the first thing to do. |
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Jason Huggins The Gates of Troy
Joined: 12 Aug 2011 Posts: 1846 Location: In the souls of a million jeans
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Agreed! The 416 is not immune to room noise but because it is so directional it will sound much different if you point it in different directions. It took me a while to figure out where it would work best in my booth. It sounded boxy in certain areas and much cleaner in others.
Personally, I would say that if the 103 works well on your voice then improve your room and save some money (or spend more depending on what you need to do). If the issue is a leaf blower or something, a 416 isn't going to make it go away.
I have found that the 416 does help with low end rumble (at least in my booth) better than a LDC mic. If you have a hipass filter it would do the same thing though.
I bought a backup 416 used for like $450...you just have to look around for them. |
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ricevoice Cinquecento
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Jason Huggins wrote: | Agreed! The 416 is not immune to room noise but because it is so directional it will sound much different if you point it in different directions. It took me a while to figure out where it would work best in my booth. It sounded boxy in certain areas and much cleaner in others. |
Also, if you have a computer with a fan you'll need to experiment with mic/computer placement to prevent the 416 from picking up that noise too. _________________ Chris Rice - Noisemaker
www.ricevoice.com |
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