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Mike Paul Contributore Level V

Joined: 05 Oct 2021 Posts: 160 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:13 pm Post subject: Two-parter: Waveform editing and recording/editing technique |
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I use TwistedWave as my audio editor. As part of my recording process, I'm thinking ahead about the editing process... so I snap a finger whenever I make a mistake. When I go back to edit, it's very easy to see where the mistakes are (1 and 2 in the image below) and where the correction begins (3)
Many of us probably edit this way: we'd select from the beginning of (1) to the beginning of (3) and press Delete.
I'm wondering: Has any editor/plugin automated this process yet? I just sent a suggestion to TwistedWave--which was when I learned there's just one developer behind that piece of kit--so it's unlikely this idea will be implemented... but it seems like a killer feature would be automatic mistake correction... call it Snap Editing or something.
Part 2: Have you tried the snap/click technique and found something even more efficient? What method did you land on? It's assumed that I want to improve my skills so I make fewer mistakes, but they're bound to happen... would be cool to whack most of em with one click.
Thanks for your thoughts! |
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BruceG Been Here Awhile

Joined: 01 Jun 2012 Posts: 258 Location: just south of Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'll snap, clap or click my tongue loudly - whatever makes an audio peak for me to see works for me!  _________________ "What was that? An exhibition? We need emotional content." - Bruce Lee, Enter The Dragon |
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glittlefield M&M

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todd ellis A Zillion

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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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i snap. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7977 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I make mouth clicks which has amused some engineers in online sessions. I also could never use an automatic splicing option. I’ve been doing this so long it takes almost no time cut the bad takes. Plus, every edit deserves some attention for the recording to sound like one fluid reading. Do the two bits sound logical (musically speaking) together? Do breaths need to be reduced or faded together or eliminated? It only takes seconds to make each edit this way.
Yeah, I’m a bit of a perfectionist, but it keeps the clients happy.
B _________________ VO-BB Member #31 Enlisted June, 2005
I'm not a Zoo, but over the years I've played one on radio/TV. . |
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Lee Gordon A Zillion

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 6864 Location: West Hartford, CT
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:37 am Post subject: |
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I use one of these dog training clickers.
Easier than making bodily noises. _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
Voice President of the United States
www.leegordonproductions.com
Twitter: @LeeGordonVoice
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ricevoice Cinquecento

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Everything Bruce said... including the part about amusing engineers when forgetting I'm in a Source Connect session and just click out of habit.
Much like the de-breath plug-ins out there, I would think an automated software editing solution would wind up causing frequent edits that just don't sound right. _________________ Chris Rice - Noisemaker
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Mike Paul Contributore Level V

Joined: 05 Oct 2021 Posts: 160 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Wow, that punch-and-roll technique is fantastic. While I do have a licensed copy of Reaper when I thought it would replace Audition (ditched due to subscription fee)... it was just too complicated for my needs, which is what led me to TwistedWave.
Also, got a reply back from TwistedWave developer, Thomas. He thinks clap/snap detection could be useful, though auto-editing of mistakes more complex but he'll keep it in mind.
He also had a suggestion that I wasn't aware of:
Quote: | If you load your text script in TwistedWave, the speech recognition feature can automatically synchronize the recorded audio with the script, and will automatically place a marker when it detects that you jump back or forward in the script. That can help when editing.
Another thing you may not know, is that you can install the TwistedWave remote a on an iPhone, and tap the marker button while you are recording, instead of snapping your fingers. |
Markers are interesting because it's a known quantity in TW (unlike a snap or clap) and so you can snap the playhead right to the marker, which could speed up editing times... though not sure by how much. |
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