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asnively · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject:

But if you've already got a solid sound card, recording software, mic & everything, and a high speed internet connection... wouldn't you just need to add the ~$800 software codec (with dongle, of course, to protect the investment)?

ETA-- Wait... you need an ISDN card, too... and an ISDN line installed. Hmph. What did I think it could use your regular internet connection? I'm oviously getting a couple of things confused.

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Deirdre · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:35 am Post subject:

Amy, Audio TX doesn't use the internet, it uses a dedicated telco line to transmit the digital data.

An ISDN line is a dedicated, super-clean data line.
That's why you need to live within a certain number of "wire feet" to the C.O.—no breaks in the line, or you need to lease a "repeater" to keep the signal strength up to snuff.

The codec— whether it's a Musicam Prima, a Telos Zephyr, a Roadrunner, or an Audio TX— takes the analog signal your studio creates and makes a digital signal out of it: a data stream.
The codec on the other end decodes that data into a (nearly or completely) lossless audio signal.
It's all transmitted via telephone lines. The ISDN line you have run to your house is a separate line from your POTS (plain old telephone service) line, and may be of better quality. Like Bruce said, it doesn't have to be copper wire, but it does have to a an ultra-clean line so nothing interferes with the data transmission.

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asnively · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:52 am Post subject:

Thanks, Deeb. I just got the initial impression that this software was a hybrid solution using ATM or DSL or something.

I am more than a little dumb about this as I have only used ISDN in a professional studio situation with real-live engineers handy and stuff...

Maybe I can just get away with a phone patch and go down the street to one of a bazillion studios (at $75 an hour) if I need ISDN...
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brianforrester · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:22 am Post subject:

asnively · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:29 am Post subject:

The Audio TX site says "...over your existing IP connection" no ISDN line necessary...

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Deirdre · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:

Let me be specific:
The site may say that they use an IP connection, but
I haven't done a session with anyone who uses it that way.

I wouldn't trust an internet connection to maintain bandwidth.
That's what Frank is working so hard on with iSpeek.
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asnively · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:57 am Post subject:

Does anyone know how much longer 'til we can get our hands on iSpeak? Frank?

I'm sitting here with a fist full of Voice Talking cash and I need to make a decision... do I wait for iSpeak?
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Bruce · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

Minor corrections from my understandings:

You can use Audio TX in a way that sends the signal down the Internet instead of ISDN, but the person receiving your signal ALSO has to have a similar set-up, and since most people don't use Audio TX that way at this time, it's not a viable idea for VO talent.

ISDN is not like DSL in that you don't have to be fairly close to a switching station. It carries less signal (bandwidth?) than a DSL line so it can actually run quite a distance...almost anywhere in your local phone company's area, IF they want to play nice and connect it that way. They are similar in that both are digital signals sent down a plain old copper wire, but they are different species and don't talk to each other.

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asnively · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:

So, when they talk about compatibility with the usual codec boxes, that is contingent upon using an ISDN line. Correct?
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Deirdre · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:

Bruce--

I understood that you need to be within 11,000 wire feet of the CO.
Other sources say 18,000 feet.

2 to 3.5 miles from the CO. More than I thought.
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Bruce · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject:

DB: With DSL yes, ISDN no...this according to my ISDN installer who installs them in stadiums and radio stations on the outskirts of the city.

Amy: Yep. For now it's ISDN to ISDN only, and broadband to broadband only. There's also POTS to POTS, but I won't confuse the issue*.

B

*For those who care, POTS to POTS involves sending a digital signal down a plain old analog line, but I gather the quality is considered by some to only good enough for remote broadcasts, and as with the others you have to have compatible units on both ends.
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asnively · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject:

Thanks Bruce! That helps a lot!

Any word from Frank about iSpeak?
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Deirdre · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:

Gregory Best · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: Ispeek and Frank

I heard from Frank. He has been out-of-town for several days and is working on iSpeek and other exciting things we will hear more about soon. He should be back home soon.
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Frank F · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject:

OK, I am back after an eventful week.

Amy, et al;

First and formost iSpeek is coming shortly, I have had a devil of a time with my coder person who is helping me on the project, but things are about to turn really terrible... and iSpeek should be available very, very soon.

Next, all of the above posts are essentially corect to some degree.
Audio TX Communicator, is able to use ISDN phone lines and the internet for delivering point to point audio. Yes, you can connect an ISDN box to an internet connection codec via a bridge (something not discussed prior).

Also; Telos, APT, Musicam and others have internet connectable boxes which run about $1800 USD.

There are several other companies such as "Source Connect" which offer a good internet to internet connection (but is difficult for novices to set-up in the beginning) using the ProTools DAW and/or a good DAW which has the ability use VST (Virtual Studio Technology, see: Steinberg VST) plugins; again, connectable through a 'bridge' to ISDN or other internet boxes and software. Or, Digital Musician Link available at: www.DigitalMusician.net

So did anyone miss me?

Toodles

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