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 Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: demo reel order? |
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So I've got 4 different demo reels, but I think I need one reel with samples from all of them. Is this correct? Is it really OK to mix the frantic video game stuff with the corporate narration? If so, is there a preferred order of sample types or just put the strongest first?
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Video games and audio books need a separate demo reel. The disciplines are really different from commercial reads.
Having specialized demos is fine as long as they're each fully fleshed-out.
When you make a presentation, the kind of work you wish to feature for the given producer/agent/whatever should be first, and your very best stuff is always first on any reel.
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But DB-- these can all be tracks on the same CD, though. Right? I don't have a narration or animation demo, but here in L.A. I see them all on the same CD with the tracks labeled like songs on an album.
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| Quote: | | Jeff wrote: "...what if I want to send my reel to a potential agent who wants it via email? All 4?" |
Jeff,
This is why you need to know your strengths and weaknesses.
Ask questions of the potential client such as: "I have demos which focus on these areas...(list), which would you prefer I send?" Or, if you have been able to research a potential clients needs and desires, you will know which ONE to send to him or her.
If dealing with an agent, the same concept goes. Ask questions. "What do you feel are your (the agents) best areas of marketing, and why?" "Do you feel my strenths are in (specific area), would you market my services in ______ area?" "Should I include all of my demos for your review?"
Certainly, you would not send an "imaging" client your "narration" demo? Would you? Or, you would not send a "commercial" client your "audiobook" demo. Get to know your target audience. Do the reasearch BEFORE you ask them to listen to your demo.
Of course you could read my book... LOL Or, any of the great books on marketing your wares and services that have been written on the subject. There is a lot of information on how to market your services available, YOU must decide how to get your information to the right target audience.
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Jeffrey Kafer
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Thanks for the book suggestion. I'll look into it.
But I wasn't referring to clients. Certainly sending the correct reel to clients is easy depending on what they want. But if I'm shopping my reels to AGENTS, I'm not sure which one to send. I suppose the same rule applies: Ask which one they want and hope they take the time to respond.
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| JeffreyKafer wrote: | | ok, but what if I want to send my reelto a potential agent who wants it via email? All 4? |
Probably the wrong question. I've become a bore for a lot of reasons but especially because I have recommended to more than one person placing a Post-it note where it can be seen which reads "it's not about me".
You are approaching someone to sell you (an agent) or someone to hire you (a direct client). What do they want? Philip doesn't know, Deirdre doesn't know, Frank doesn't know whereas the person you are approaching probably does know. Pick up the telephone and ask. If they won't take your call then you have your answer. Should they take your call make sure that you have the right questions.
In sales training a great deal of time is spent talking about areas of match and mis-match. Where do you match client needs, are they any areas of mis-match? For a number of people there is a fear of knowing, to succeed you must know. The easy way? Teach yourself to get people to say "No" to you, one day they may say YES!! |
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| asnively wrote: | | But DB-- these can all be tracks on the same CD, though. Right? I don't have a narration or animation demo, but here in L.A. I see them all on the same CD with the tracks labeled like songs on an album. |
Yep. that's what I do.
The "most important" track comes first. Submitting to an agent or production company chiefly interested in commecials?
that track goes first.
Submitting to a game developer?
That track goes first.
But you see, it's good to include the other well-produced demos you have— so people who give a rip have a chance to hear your range.
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| Banksey wrote: | | You are approaching someone to sell you (an agent) or someone to hire you (a direct client). What do they want? Philip doesn't know, Deirdre doesn't know, Frank doesn't know whereas the person you are approaching probably does know. |
Philip is absolutely right—it's perfectly reasonable and eevn more courteous to find out what THEY NEED from you.
In a world where agents don't take phone calls, ask to speak to Mr Agent's assistant, or find out what Mr Agent's e-mail is.
Email is the least intrusive method of communication. It doesn't bug people—doesn't require immediate confiscation of one's time and takes up no desk space, and even Stephen Sondheim answers his email.
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