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Chrissy Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: Need help with a Pro Tools problem |
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Chuck Davis set up my new recording equipment for me. Below is part of a post from the Entre Nous section:
"Folks - we ran into a bit of a problem with Chris's P4 equipped Dell PC throwing up a playback buffer error. I've got her working on the finer points of computer config for pro-tools (she's got an mbox mini)...but your suggestions would certainly help!"
The message on my screen reads: Operating system held off interrupts for too long. If this occurs frequesntly, try increasing the "H/W Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine panel (-6086)
Basic spec on my PC is:
P4 (I think it's 3.5gb...Chris could check though)
2gb ram
Integrated Video
80gb main drive
250gb record drive (16mb cache/7200rpm)
Win XP Home/SP2
Pro-Tools 7.0 on M-Box Mini
I tried shutting off the Norton antivirus and Dragon Naturally Speaking while I recorded and played back. I still got the same message. There are no games loaded on the computer.
Anyone have any ideas that can help?
Thanks,
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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1. Go to the Digidesign Support section:
www.digidesign.com/support
2. In the "Support Search" window at the top left of the page, enter just the error code number.
Do not enter the minus sign or anything else, just the number.
For the most complete results, leave the drop down category list at the default "All Categories".
3. Click the Search button. That will bring up all available support information regarding that DAE error. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
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Yoda117 M&M
Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 2362 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, it's Mhz, not Gb for the chip speed (Gb is a gigabyte, Mhz is a megahertz and they relate to different things).
My first question is to ask, what model Dell. Some models aren't compatible with PT (check the digidesign website for a detailed list).
Next, if the motherboard was replaced, you need to know. The chipset in the mobo needs to be compatible with digidesign's specs. More often than not, I find that to be the main issue in HW compatibility.
The next thing would be to check the size of the swap/page file set in XP (a page file is basically a virtual amount of memory that XP uses by swapping data between your RAM and HDD).
If we're lucky it's a problem within PT itself & can be fixed as follows:
1. Choose Setups –> Playback Engine. (The Playback Engine dialog box opens)
2. Select the setting that you want from the H/W Buffer Size drop-down list.
3. Click OK to accept the setting and close the dialog box.
If not, then here are some other solutions to related buffer issues... they might work, but it's a roll of the die.
Go to control panel,system, and click on the advanced tab. Click on settings in the peformance area. Click on adavanced then in virtual memory click change. Click "no paging file" then OK. Restart your computer(digi recommends 1024 for paging file, but if you have a several Gb of RAM you should be golden).
If you are using a control surface that is not compatible with PT (a mixer perhaps) and it is not in the recording chain BEFORE the mBox, get rid of it and give PT a whirl.
Hopefully the info and suggestions help _________________ Voiceovers by Gregory Houser
Philadelphia based Voice Actor
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Dang-- you guys are a gold mine. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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KaraEdwards M&M
Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 2374 Location: Behind a mic or camera, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure to listen to the guys above before listening to me...they are WAY smarter when it comes to this stuff! That said, you may want to check your anti-virus and also make sure to turn off the 'update' feature on your computer.
When I get that error, it is typically because the computer or some program tried to update. A quick re-start usually fixes the issue. _________________ Threadjackers local 420
Kara Edwards
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Edo Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Just a thought... for your problem rang a bell. I found this in an e-mail conversation from just over a year ago when I was trying to help someone with similar issues. I had a chat with a Digidesign Tech Rep... and he said:
Random 6086 errors in Pro Tools, especially after all other troubleshooting has been attempted have been known to be caused by bad RAM modules. Removing or replacing modules may assist in locating the problematic module.
Just my € 0.02
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea, Edo. Bad RAM is often a problem with sensitive applications. And luckily, it's also cheap to swap out modules (relatively cheap, anyway). _________________ Jeff
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Chrissy Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for various suggestions. Kara trust me I know lessa than you do. I'm a beginner( actually what's before beginner--pre-beginner). I need to wait until my tech savvy daughter gets here to help me try these options.
I will keep you updated.
Chrissy |
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CarynClark MMD
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2697 Location: Fort Myers, FL
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, this is the same problem I brought up a couple of months ago. You can do a search for the thread... lots of trouble shooting there.
I added RAM... didn't really make a difference. Also, changed out my anti-virus to AVG antivirus (it was in that thread I mentioned) that was suggested here... helped alot. I still get the error, but not as much.
ProTools doesn't like antivirus software. _________________ Caryn Clark... The Hip Chick Voice!
"A positive mental attitude and having faith in your ability is quite different from being irresponsible and downright stupid." - Dave |
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Diane Maggipinto Spreading Snark Worldwide
Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 6679 Location: saul lay seetee youtee
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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another rah! rah! for avg _________________ sitting at #8, though not as present as I'd like to be. Hello!
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 4931 Location: Location, Location!
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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CarynClark wrote: | ProTools doesn't like antivirus software. |
There's very little that Pro Tools does like. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 13016 Location: East Jesus, Maine
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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It plays nice with systems that don't need anti-virus stuff.
I know some folks who keep an internet-free PC for sound editing. _________________ DBCooperVO.com |
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Edo Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: | It plays nice with systems that don't need anti-virus stuff. |
And they're still called Mac...
Had my Dual PowerMac G5 2.5Gb/2.5Gb with 6Gb RAM installed in september 2004. I tried to mess it up big time, but i has NEVER crashed, and only had to reboot/restart maybe 10 times up until now... and that includes taking the power off for vacations and an occasional software upgrade.
Have three PC's as well running XP Pro... various OS reinstalls each year. Thank G... for Ghost images by Symantec/Norton. My brandnew laptop runs Vista, it is almost 4 months old, already had to salvage a partition. Vista s*cks by the way. |
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ricevoice Cinquecento
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 532 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Deirdre wrote: |
I know some folks who keep an internet-free PC for sound editing. |
<raising hand>
Here at home my production PC is offline... when I first got it 3 years ago it was a pain sending mp3s and trying to get the CDRWs to work right, but now with the trusty thumb drive it's a piece of cake shuttling files back and forth. Probably just paranoia on my part, but I do a lot of full-blown production on that machine and just don't want to risk it. _________________ Chris Rice - Noisemaker
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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Edo wrote: | Deirdre wrote: | It plays nice with systems that don't need anti-virus stuff. |
And they're still called Mac...
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let's not go there, shall we? If you look up this error code on the Digidesign site, there are plenty of knowledgebase entries dealing with this exact error on OSX. It isn't a Windows thing, It's a Pro Tools thing on both platforms.
To Quote one of the rules of the VO-BB:
Quote: | No tech bashing.
No PC vs Mac wars, no My-Editor- Rules-Your-Editor-Lags flames, no "My Mic Is The Only One Worth Having" slams.
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_________________ Jeff
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