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CarynClark · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject:

I took a quick look before I head off to beddy bye.... I like it. It's simple and easy to navigate.

My only suggestion at the moment - change the font to a sans serif font, like verdana.

Excellent!!!
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louzucaro · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject:

A few things I noticed...

As has been stated before re: websites, you may want to consider NOT having your e-mail address on the site, in order to help keep spam down (spambots routinely "harvest" e-mail addresses from websites). You can use a form, instead, that processes server-side (if your hosting supports that) to abstract out the recipient's e-mail address.

Is it possible for you to remove the IceTemplates credit / link without violating any type of licensing agreement? I only suggest this as, since this is a professional organization that you're promoting on the site, you may want to consider not advertising that your site was based on a template.

A lot of your text butts right up against the edges of boxes or rules...you might want to play with your styles and allow for some white space to make it easier to read, etc.

On the Demos page, you show a web address of www.doctorpuff.com but the link isn't "hot"...was that intentional? Generally, if you're gonna show it, it's a good idea to make it hot so that people can just click on it. Just make sure to set it to open in a new window so that you're not sending them away from your site Smile

Finally, I think if you're going to talk about things like MOH and Production, you should have audio samples on those pages.
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Donovan · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:

I will echo the recommendation for a different font on the right. Also, I would expect there to be a demo on the MOH page. On the "demos" page, I suggest a different color for the talent names. The blue on black is a bit hard on the eyes (IMHO).

OK, that was the negative stuff. On the positive, I like the simplicity of it and the links are easy to find. And I like the orange/yellow theme a lot.

To remedy the Email address issue (it's true, spiders will find it and your spam amounts will rise quickly), you can do what I did and make a button of your Email address that can still be a link.

I hope that made sense...
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louzucaro · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject:

Good comment about the colors, Donovan!

The only thing is that making a graphic button of your e-mail address doesn't help at all...the spiders read the underlying code. The only way to get around it is to not have the e-mail address appear anywhere on the page, whether in plain text or in the code. That's why I mentioned the server-side form.
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Donovan · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject:

Hmm... interesting. On my first website, I had it with the normal link and got bombarded with spam. I then used the picture/link on my new site and I maybe get 2-3 spam Emails a week.

But I apologize Isaiah, for the incorrect info. Frown

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dagoldenknight86 · Guest

Thanks guys (and gals) for all the input!

I love the new font. I added the extra space for the text where it was right at the end of the table but for some reason I couldn't do that on the message on hold page (further play required), I changed the link color to red (hope that’s better).... I'm really not a graphics guy and my wife pointed out the same thing last night. She say's I'm not generally "color coordinated" what ever that means Sticking out Tongue

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I tried to gray out the template credit more, I’m going to have to review the license again because I did make a lot of changes to the design and color, perhaps it’s different enough to call my own. I took the e-mail down with the exception of the contact page. I need something other then what front page offers because I don’t have front page extensions (running a Linux server). That will take a little time.

I have a message on hold and production demo on the way with in a few days! (got a good one from Pizza hut waiting for them to send me the final cut).

Thanks again!

louzucaro · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:27 am Post subject:

It looks like you're using inline font declarations - the fonts are included in your HTML. You may have better luck using CSS to get things to look the way you want, which makes it easier to maintain the site anyway.

I sent you a PM...
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louzucaro · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:21 am Post subject:

Ok, here's some info on CSS (Cascading Style Sheets):

CSS files are just text files that follow the CSS rules or as is commonly called in computer-ese, syntax.

So the first thing you'd wanna do is make a copy of a page to work on, such as your home page. You're going to keep the original for reference, and then in the new one, remove all of the existing formatting, so that there are no fonts, sizes or colors (etc.) specified.

Now you can start by creating your style sheet.

As an example, I've grabbed your site and put it here:
http://www.genusus.com/gnet/goldenknight/

The style sheet I created, which is only applied to the home page, looks like this, and the file is called gkm.css:

dagoldenknight86 · Guest

Well it took me a little bit to figure it all out but after a while it finally clicked. The whole website is now CSS, thanks a bunch Lou!

bobsouer · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject:

Isaiah,

I like the CSS version of your site a great deal. My only suggestion for improvement is that at least in Firefox 2.x on my system, the hot link text on the contact page is too dark. I almost can't see that there's an email on the page. Otherwise, I think you'd done a super job.
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louzucaro · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject:

Isaiah,

You can fix that by adding something like this to the CSS file:

.body a:link {
color: #FFC001;
text-decoration: underline;
}

.body a:visited {
color: #FE7300;
text-decoration: underline;
}

.body a:hover {
color: #FFFFFF;
text-decoration: underline;
}

This will make those links over the black background pop more, but will only affect text that you've specified the .body class for.

Lou
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dagoldenknight86 · Guest

Lou you rock! I just added those classes to the css and it was instantly fixed. I love using css!!

Bob, does it look okay now with your browser? It's changed on IE.

Thanks so much for the help!

louzucaro · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:25 am Post subject:

You might want to do the same thing for your .demo class, but this is another fun thing about CSS...you don't need to duplicate the whole class. For those three classes, modify them so that they also include the .demo class, like this:

.body a:link, .demo a:link {
color: #FFC001;
text-decoration: underline;
}

Notice that in the first line, I added a comma afer .body a:link then the .demo a:link after that.

This is a way to apply the style to multiple classes at a time.

Do this, and the same thing for those other two new classes, and you should be good to go on the Demos page as well.
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bobsouer · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:12 am Post subject:

Isaiah,

In Firefox, the email link on the contact page continues to be very dark. I can see it now, but hover makes it disappear into the background completely.
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