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chriswagner
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: My Branding/logo Reply with quote

Hey there..

I've been off doing things like trying to codify a branding statement and logo, unfortunately I don't have an interesting name (Chris Wagner is rather common) that I could play off using kit kats, or a bicycle, or hell having Os in my name that I could use to put graphics in.

Nope, boring.. But my wife came up with a cute but cool branding line that I have been using "The perfect voice for your perfect message".. although that sounded good, how do you turn that into a logo? And it may just be a bit too cute.

So, here's what I have come up with, would like comments if you could. And yes, I have put the application in for a federal trademark last year.... just waiting for the registration number.

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CarynClark
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris,

I like it!!!

A couple of things though:

No where is your name mentioned or placed in the logo. And first and foremost, you want your name associated with your tag line.

The other thing is... do you just do TV? Or do you do other things like radio, web narration, etc? If you just do tv stuff, then ok, but if you do all types of vo, I think that slogan limits you.

I think it's a clever concept though as that box is recognizable.

I'd also love to pick your brain about how you did the trademarking thing. I've wanted to do that myself, but I've looked online and the process appears somewhat daunting. Any tips?

Thanks!!! Caryn
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chriswagner
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caryn,

Good points! I did think about having my name in the graphic, but I'm also looking to possible merchandize my logo... hats and T-shirts, etc.. and if my name was in there, who the heck would want to buy them? Wink

I talked with my agents about the as heard on tv, and they all felt that it was a strong enough branding to not matter. Just says you've heard me on TV, but not that I only do TV. But yes, that might be something that would make me reconsider the brand. Super point!

What I plan on doing is using my name WITH the logo in all my marketing, it's not a part of it, but will be associated with it. I have a draft for my updated site to show you what I mean.

http://asheardon.tv

As far as the trademarking itself, not that difficult to do, I just went to legalzoom filled out the paperwork (which was quite simple really) and plunked down the 400+ dollars, they did the rest of the work and filed it for me. I have had to go back in and re-submit the logo because the one they sent looked like a smudge of ashes... Other than that it was quite easy!

The great thing about the registered trademark is, that you have the legal right to stop anyone from using that trademark. As long as you protect it by including the (tm) or (r) when it is used.

Chris
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

Very catchy... just a couple of remarks. It's been tried in Holland about six years ago and the couldn't trademark the logo for it was said to belong to some Luxemburg publishing company for their TV Guide. I don't know the specifics of that, but that publising company supposedly owned the logo for over 40 years or so.

First reaction upon seeing the logo:

Even though it's very powerful I'd like to also state that whenever I see logos like that on a box/product in a store, it automatically reminds me of the long and boring TV Shop infomercials like Amazing Discoveries which instantly make me throw stuff at my TV. If that's the message you're willing to include in your marketing, that's okay. But if I can come up with that thought, so can a producer hiring you for a corporate job.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caryn, the TM symbol can be used without any legal paperwork. Only the registered trademark symbol (the circle with the R in it) requires legal documents to be filed first before being able to use it.

So go ahead and slap that TM symbol on your logo if you want to!
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chriswagner
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true, but it is infinitely easier to keep someone from stealing your logo outright if you have the federal registration. Or by taking the key elements from your logo and using it in their own.

AND it keeps you from getting in trouble by researching it in the federal trademark databse first. Smile

Moreover, I needed another tax expense last year, and it fit the bill.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, Amy Snively is not going to like you.

http://www.amysnively.com/
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor the dozens of other people who came up with it before:

http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=%22as+heard+on+TV%22&FORM=BIRE
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch!... the sting of a quick spanking.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, sometimes that can be quite exciting.

Not that I know anything about it, because I don't.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre made me laugh out loud, here in my hotel room in Dublin, OH. Laugh
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeffreyKafer wrote:
Nor the dozens of other people who came up with it before:

http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=%22as+heard+on+TV%22&FORM=BIRE


Not to add fuel to this fire, but didn't Harlan Hogan and his peeps use this brand about 5 years back? I seem to remember shirts and hats on his website with a near identical brand.
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bailey wrote:
ouch!... the sting of a quick spanking.
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Been gone all evening. What'd I miss?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:
Well, sometimes that can be quite exciting.

Not that I know anything about it, because I don't.


*covering my ears and singing to myself*
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