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James Lorenz · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: The end of savvy?

It looks as if the powers that be at 123 have taken over the other forum and wiped out all of the old posts to start anew.
I'm a fan of all the forums and get so much info and frienship from them all. I would hate to see all of that gone forever @ savvy.
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tackerman · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:12 am Post subject:

Now THAT'S a crackdown! Can't say I'm surprised.

James Lorenz · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:43 am Post subject:

Now the post I started on the new site questioning it (not inflammatory) has been deleted.
wow
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Deirdre · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:57 am Post subject:

Sounds Draconian, but what do I know.
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Philip Banks · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:14 am Post subject:

Still to come from a commercially linked web site near you, detention centers, whites only threads and weekly book burning. Free subscription to certain sites for naming traitors and spies.

Any individual who posts challenging or potentially damaging threads/topics on certain sites should expect such material to be deleted as the management of the site is merely using "Chat/forum" model to generate sales. Content that is upbeat and promotes the owners mainstream website is of commercial value and as such should be posted in return for a fee or discount off the owner's product.

LEGAL NOTE

The above content is in no way linked with any Voice Over web site and has been posted to highlight an alarming trend in commercial web site behaviour and to encourage reciprocal behaviour from contributors.

audio'connell · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:03 am Post subject:

Do you think they realize that the professional voice over community credibility they barely had is now compounded by the social media credibility they will never have?

All those posters who have just been told "as to your ideas and conversations: f-you. They didn't mean anything and some insulted us and its our sandbox."

Ah yes, V123, by your words, actions, and services, you never let us forget its all about you.

I wish I invested in stocks as successfully as I pulled out of paying V123 at the right time so long ago....I'd be rich-er.
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CarynClark · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:12 am Post subject:

If you guys look, they did reply that the old info has NOT been deleted and will be linked back in somehow.

Peter, sounds like you need a good broker. I know one...
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Jacob Ekstroem · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:14 am Post subject:

I was a little shocked at first... but not surprised, really.
Funny thing, all the new topics just looks like propaganda.

I think I'm gonna be sick.

EDIT: Caryn, yes they DID say that..... but I have a feeling they will be heavily filtered first.... if it's true at all.
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CarynClark · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:19 am Post subject:

You know Jacob, I kinda thought the same thing... seems like a one-sided conversation.

But, they did start the forum, so I guess that makes sense. And, they did start savvy too.

I've decided to see this in a positive light... and that is, the key players at V123 seem to be available to more readily answer our questions about the inner workings of the system, which will hopefully allow for a better understanding of it. I plan to use that understanding to my advantage.
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Claire Dodin · Club 300 Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 392 Location: Sunny LA

Rob Ellis · M&M Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 2385 Location: Detroit

No comment. But purely as a statement of fact, I did not renew my V123 membership in May.

Yoda117 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:07 am Post subject:

robert jadah · Guest

Gather 'round, kiddies; let me tell you how Grampa once tangled with the mighty Savvy beast.

I was originally a V123 apologist; a staunch defender of its faltering steps.

"Give Smartcast some time," I cried as that blind and cumbersome monster dealt us leads for Lithuanian transvestites, urban rap jingles, and soprano divas.
"Give the ratings a chance to settle," I urged as our rankings and search priorities were established by eleven-year would-be Spielbergs, and myopic seekers with little time and patience.
"Maybe it's good to spread the workload," I opined as voicers were punished for daring to audition.

"Sure, I'll do as they say," I smiled, taking a three-week audition sabbatical to bring myself more in line with the audition average.
Immediately, I dropped fifty percentile points. I all but disappeared from the search function, appearing only somewhere between Marcel Marceau and Helen Keller.

Bemused, I posted a whimsical Johnny Cash parody: "A Boy Rated Two."
The powers that be snarled that I had somehow insulted their mothers.
I wrote frostily about the conflicting counsel: how we were damned if we did, and doubly damned if we didn't.
I was labelled a "toxic internet presence."

Then I was disappeared. My private leads went from sporadic to never. I couldn't access Savvy. I couldn't PM. Worse, my V123 site was literally gone.

I didn't renew.

Savvy had come between me and V123. For that, I'll always be grateful.

Jacob Ekstroem · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:29 am Post subject:

Yoda117 · Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: