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kitstern

So here we go, back into gear heaven. Is anyone running this equipment? If so, are you running the firewire through a sound card or the motherboard? DigiDesign recommends a 64 bit card, and our machine has a 32 bit slot, so we're wondering if we can use that slot with the 64 bit card.

If anything sounds weird, please excuse. I'm asking questions posed by my IT guy husband who has been venturing into the world of digital sound production by helping with my computer questions.

Happy weekend. Anybody putting up the lights yet? I'm making bourbon balls, yum!
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Frank F · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject:

Don't worry about the difference between a seperate board and the Motherboard... you are using firewire... the Firewire 410 IS the soundcard... it just connects to the computer via the Firewire port.

Now we just hope you have a Firewire port on the computer...??? If not, we will discuss that later.

Universal Serial Port (USB) and Firewire (IEE 1394) are I/O protocols which, in a similar fashion to the older SCSI (Scuzzy) protocols, allow users to connect devices to the computer without the requirement of internal slot space - save whatever I/O card you need - but only one card - many devices.

The Firewire 410 is a great little soundcard which will allow you four I/O's at the same time (four tracks). All this in a portable, easy to connect, lightweight device. Impeccable Pre's, easy HUI (Human User Interface) and more - all for VERY inexpensive... Good choice.

Unless your computer is specifically designed to work with 64 bit protocols, it is 32 bit. The suggestion to use 64 bit is a nice way to say "your computer is a bit older and would you like us to sell you a new one"? Don't worry, the Firewire 410 is designed to work with 32 bit architecture. ProFools is also designed to work in a single processor environment.

have fun, you made the right choice.

Frank F

kitstern · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject:

Frank,

I'm beginning to sense that you're not a fan of ProTools, correct? Meee Tooo. It's such a buggy program, I have no idea why it's "the industry standard". Similar situation to seriously disliking PCs and Microsoft although they're the standard for most business users. I would SO prefer to use a Mac, but all of our computers are PCs and that's what Bill (my husband) is familiar with, so that's what we're stuck with.

BTW, no Firewire port on the M-Audio computer.

And thanks for the help and insight.
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marko · Guest

I really like ProTools and haven't had many problems at all with it. Once
you learn the shortcuts it's a breeze to edit.

Then again, I'm a die hard Mac user too! We do have it on our PC
as well as a back-up.

Frank F · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject:

Although I am not "fan" of ProFools" it's not due to lack of trying. I own several DAW's (Digital Audio Workstations) and we have ProFools on two, this for the convienience of working with those clients who use the product. It's cumbersome to work with, expensive, and - in my opinion - has drawbacks which inhibit my creativity.
:shock:

I am not against Mac's, I like the product - I use it for video editing quite often. MS and Big Bill have their respective problems, and if you are going to use your PC on the internet, be VERY careful...

As for PC's vs. Mac's - each has it's place in the computing world. I am ambidextrous when it comes to using them... I personally use the tool which fits my lifestyle - laid back and easy...
:lol:

Kit, you are going to need add an I/O Firewire PCI board to your PC. They run about $40.00 USD for a good one.

Look for something which is IEEE 1394b compatable, if possible, they are faster and are backwards compatable to the IEEE 1394a protocols. (1394b cards are a little more expensive however, about $80.00 USD - but in most cases 1394a will work for you - 1394b is just a faster protocol.) With Firewire you can now easily add external hard-drives and other devices without having to open up your computer.

Have your Hubby open the PC, insert and configure the card, and you will be on your way. Then plug in the Firewire 410, put the cables to where they need go and it's "Miller Time".

There are some set-up items for the 410 which will help optimize the product when it comes to performance, but once completed - you will have a fine little DAW.

"Sometimes you feel like a nut (PC) and sometimes you don't." ProFools has become the "standard" by virtue of it's being the first real DAW way back when??? Although there are now several (many) more capable and less expensive software products on the market today... PT was the FIRST. (Before I get lots of SPAM and SPOOF - there were several others available, PT just cornered the market by setting out to create a truly professional product - and they spent the bucks to promote it to the Audio Recording Studio market). It has been said "He who is first wins!" In the world of marketing, "...being first means you will always have the lions share of the market - number two will always be number two - unless you make a mistake..."

Frank F

SoundsGreat-Elaine Singer · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject:

Frank, when you are not using ProTools, what do you use?
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Frank F · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:

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kgenus · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject:

The new version of ProTools (7.0), supports multiple CPUs. I do not own it, however, that's what they told me when I called them. Many of the new plugin updates from Waves were done to take advantage of that fact.

I'm a Fool!
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Frank F · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:

Yes, it's true.. PT 7 does support dual CPU's. Sony Vegas has done this since version 4, just an interesting side note...

The Waves bundles also work with Direct X (PC)... I don't use them all, but I do use some...great product, the Waves bundles...

Frank F

Deirdre · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:34 am Post subject:

Charlie Channel · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:

brianforrester · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:04 am Post subject:

Hey Charlie...

I actually have an e-mail into Audio TX right now (I've long since given up on contacting digi support - "The DUC has a wealth of information" don't ya know!) to see if there is a way to make Audio TX work with the mbox, but if I understand your post correctly... you couldn't make it work? Being a bit green with all of the intracicies of PT, I can't figure how to route audio into and out of PT to or from a 3rd party software application. I know that rewire is supposed to accomplish this, but I've been searching high and low for how to initialize it in 7.0 and I can't for the life of me figure it out. Heck, I can't even find rewire in PT 7.0, and the tech support docs on the digi site haven't been any help either.

I'm trying to accomplish 2 totally different things... 1st, I want to capture audio from adobe audition in real-time into PT, 2nd I want to give audio TX a test run...

Any suggestions? Anybody?

Thanks
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Charlie Channel · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject:

Charlie Channel · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject:

FYI: Rewire is used with Reason, an application. It might be used with other a Hobo Tounge

's, too. AudioTX doesn't work use Rewire to connect to Pro Tools, which is software. It's a virtual wire. I wouldn't go down that path.

AudioTX uses ASIO-2 to connect to hardware.

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kgenus · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: