| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Diane Maggipinto
Spreading Snark Worldwide
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 6679
Location: saul lay seetee youtee
|
 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Reading Comprehension ... or ... Telling the Story |
 |
|
Recently, I offered advice to a friend who will fill in on occasion as afternoon host and news reader at a local NPR affiliate. While she thinks I don't like the sound of anyone local, it's more that I'm picky. I hear the sing-songy delivery and can almost certainly tell when a person is wrapped up in the sound of his voice instead of reading the news and/or being natural. You know--when the emPHASis is on the wrong syLLABle.
This was in today's funnies, which sums it up:
_________________
sitting at #8, though not as present as I'd like to be. Hello!
www.d3voiceworks.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Deirdre
Czarina Emeritus
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
Posts: 13023
Location: Camp Cooper
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My recent take on it was to explain to a student that it's not about making the words sound nice.
Like in any art, you need to consider the whole composition.
_________________
DBCooperVO.com
IMDB |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bailey
4 Large
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 4336
Location: Lake San Marcos... north of Connie, northwest of the Best.
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Perhaps we could compare using the Japanese "Tsukiyama" approach to speaking, when doing voice overs. If you think about it you'll get the connection.
No, I'm not drinking sake.
_________________
"Bailey"
a.k.a. Jim Sutton
Retired... Every day is Saturday, except Sunday.
VO-BB Member #00044  .gif" alt="W00T" border="0" />
AOVA Graduate 02/2004 ;
"Be a Voice, not an Echo." |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Philip Banks
Je Ne Sais Quoi
Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 11075
Location: Portgordon, Scotland
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
Post -it note 1 - It's not about me
Post-it note 2 - Hey! Get over yourself
Start a thread on this or any other voice over board about the best mic, preamp, vocal booth or anything to get those great pipe even more greaterer and you'll be beating posters off with a stick. Whereas if you start a thread about performance skills 5 responses is good going.
Most voices need to move from great pipes to appropriate mood - Get that and 'pon the very day the it becomes a part of your soul your fortunes will sore beyond the clouds giving leave for thine heart to whisper earthly secrets unto the bosum of the stars. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Diane Havens
Backstage Pass
Joined: 16 Jul 2008
Posts: 460
Location: NYC metro
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
It's like telling someone who's gorgeous to stop looking at her/himself in the mirror, and to pay attention to his/her dinner date. As Benjamin Franklin said, "He who is in love with himself will have no rivals."
_________________
Diane
Veni, Vidi, Voci
http://www.dianehavens.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ccpetersen
With a Side of Awesome
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 3708
Location: In Coherent
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Philip Banks wrote: |
Start a thread on this or any other voice over board about the best mic, preamp, vocal booth or anything to get those great pipe even more greaterer and you'll be beating posters off with a stick. Whereas if you start a thread about performance skills 5 responses is good going.
|
Very true.
It's easier to talk about mics, preamps, etc... harder to quantify performance skills for each person. We all come to them through different routes, and as one colleague once said, through different ways of implementing the same artifices to effect a true performance.
Put all of us in a room and give us the assignment of voicing a character that is sympathetic in hospital VO, for example. We will each come to that sympathy through some inner route, and no two inner routes may be exactly the same. It's bringing the personal to our work and may be hard to describe.
_________________
Charter Member: Threadjackers Local 420 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ConnieTerwilliger
Triple G
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 3381
Location: San Diego - serving the world
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It's acting - where you really are inside the words - reacting - emoting - believing. It's not reading.
The hardest part for many is hearing the difference in the first place - first in other people - listening for those who bring out the story - and then listening for it in yourself.
And some scripts are much harder than others to find the story. So we have to work even harder. Sometimes I get it right the first time. Sometimes I have to dig and think and uncover. Sometimes I just never find it.
_________________
Playing for a living...
www.voiceover-talent.com
YouTube Channel: http://youtube.com/connieterwilliger |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lance Blair
M&M
Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 2281
Location: Atlanta
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The less I feel like I'm here (self-awareness) the more the story is there.
It drives me nuts when I hear people read and emphasize either all the nouns or all the verbs as a habit (speaking of NPR).
Just because you say "The VILLAGE was burned down by the ARMY" doesn't convey the meaning at all, and just because you have a fluid song to your read doesn't mean you're getting it across either. The best songs are ones that may have a central theme but are not repetitive. They change pitch, tone, volume, pace etc. as needed.
And then there's the question of self-awareness. To what extent does your mind consciously think "This sentence needs end on an uplift" without impeding the acting or natural feeling of the delivery...or do you need to be working with two minds at once.
_________________
Skype: globalvoiceover
and now, http://lanceblairvo.com the blog is there now too! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rob Ellis
M&M
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 2385
Location: Detroit
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| For me, it's all of the above X 100, combined with that nebulous je ne sais quoi that can be so elusive at times.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
tabhasg
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Amen to nebulosity! A collection of dust and noble gases. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Rob Ellis
M&M
Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 2385
Location: Detroit
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Oh yes, and losing the headphones, in my case, is a big help in this area. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bobbinbeamo
M&M
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Posts: 2468
Location: Wherever I happen to be
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
post it note #3- Stay out of your own way
_________________
Bobbin Beam
www.bobbinbeam.com
blog.bobbinbeam.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
todd ellis
A Zillion
Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Posts: 10529
Location: little egypt
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
it's easier for some of us. i'm told i suck so often i rarely have time to get wrapped up in "me".
_________________
"i know philip banks": todd ellis
who's/on/1st?
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
