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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Newbie Question - Training/Demo Companies |
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I've seen a number of companies out there that offer "packages" that typically include a voice evaluation, an hour or two of coaching, some training materials, and finally a recording session for a demo.
Your thoughts on using one of these companies to get the demo recorded would be appreciated. Any of these companies you'd recommend or suggest be avoided?
Thanks for any tips! |
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bobsouer Frequent Flyer

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CJ, (I'll assume for the moment that's how you're called)
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Dan-O The Gates of Troy

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Lee Gordon A Zillion

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If someone offered you a course in airplane building that included an aptitude test, a couple hours of training and supervision, and some materials, at the end of which you got to build your own plane, would you want to fly in it? _________________ Lee Gordon, O.A.V.
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Moe Egan 4 Large

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Beware the snake oil sales people. There ain't no miracle elixir or one shot class that can get you ready for a demo. _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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Philip Banks Je Ne Sais Quoi

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Trust them to deliver. Accept everything they say, everything they offer and pay the price they ask. One condition, the person selling needs to give you the contact details of three people who as a result of using their services is now making a living or a regular additional income as a Voice Over.
Here is a key point - It is impossible for someone to teach you how to become a Voice Over, you are either able to do it or you aren't. There are people out there who may be able to help you become a better Voice Over but they are few and far between. |
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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When you're just getting started, the last thing you want is a demo that was made in one or two sessions.
It will SOUND like it was made in one or two sessions.
It won't sound like you're spent any time developing your technique and style.
Those demos go right in the round file. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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todd ellis A Zillion

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i would just like to mention that everything db says has an automatic exclamation point via her avatar. _________________ "i know philip banks": todd ellis
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Jeffrey Kafer Assistant Zookeeper

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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To piggyback onto what Deebs said. In the very off-chance that the demo sounds good through post production and studio tricks, you won't have had enough training to deliver on what the demo promises. _________________ Jeff
http://JeffreyKafer.com
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Moe Egan 4 Large

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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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That is the worst case scenario Kafer, when you can't deliver on the promises of your demo. Clients will remember you for that...not the way you want to get known! Youch. _________________ Moe Egan
i want to be the voice in your head.
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bobbinbeamo M&M

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Be sure to listen to other demos made by the "vendor", and listen carefully. Ask for references. Beware of scams and pariahs who are most adept at separating you from your money. _________________ Bobbin Beam
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Bailey 4 Large

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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: Newbie Question - Training/Demo Companies |
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In saying, "a number of companies out there"... I'm assuming you mean the Internet? If not, have you checked out any local companies... dependent on your location... wherever that may be? _________________ "Bailey"
a.k.a. Jim Sutton
Retired... Every day is Saturday, except Sunday.
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CarlWelden Contributor

Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 49 Location: New Paltz, N.Y. Catskills / Mid-Hudson Valley region
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: The typical racket |
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First is an introductory workshop open to the public. Like one offered in an ongoing adult education program.
Then comes the call back from one of their coaches/marketing attack dogs with an evaluation saying that "you have what it takes, but you better act now"
Then the offer you can't refuse: an expensive session bundle where you will be given special inside industry knowledge punctuated by a professional demo recording.
Credit card number please.......
If it feels rushed, there's a red flag right there.
The suggestion to listen to other demos they've produced is well worth heeding. Take care to note if they are recordings of actual students/clients or their in-house production staff. Usually they won't offer up their student roster....wonder why? _________________ Carl Welden
http://www.carlwelden.com
A Welden voice is a well-done voice
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Deirdre Czarina Emeritus

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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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It really is quite sad to hear a demo that cost someone $4 grand and know it is completely, absolutely unusable. _________________ DBCooperVO.com
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