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Charles Nove
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Here for the Nonce Reply with quote

If this were a UK based board, I'd hazard a guess it wouldn't be badged as "Here for the Nonce". Not unless it really was a board aimed at prison inmates who'd been convicted of child sex offences and who were being kept segregated from other prisoners for their own protection....
Just one of those quaint US / UK usage differences!

Which reminds me of the tale of one of our British female voices who, for family reasons, spent the early years of her secondary schooling in the US. Picture the scene in the Math(s) class when she asked if anyone had a Rubber she could borrow (what we call a rubber, you call an eraser!). As a round of tittering broke out in class, she sought to clarify the position by saying: "I'll give it back when I've used it.". Which didn't seem to help at all!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle from South London, after several hours at a party in New York finally succumbed to her innermost cravings.

"I've had enough! I could really murder a fag!"

SILENCE - STARES

She'd been trying to give up smoking but after a great deal to drink really needed a cigarette.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never heard that usage of Nonce! My dictionary has it though.

nonce 2
noun Brit., informal
a person convicted of a sexual offense, esp. child molesting.
ORIGIN 1970s: of unknown origin.


Once again, some blighter ruined a perfectly good word.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While my wife was a member of the U.S. Navy she was stationed at an RAF base in Wales. She remembers being in the dinner line and seeing that a side dish of moistened and seasoned bread crumbs was being offered. She blurted out, "I really like stuffing!", and got quite the reaction from all of the Brits who heard her. Stuffing apparently was/is a slang term for procreative endeavors.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deirdre wrote:
ORIGIN 1970s: of unknown origin.

Some claim it to be from Not on Normal Communal (or Courtyard) Exercise, as in "don't send these folks to the exercise yard at the same time as the others, it won't end well!".
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm always a little suspicious of acronyms-as-etymology tales, but English does get some of its words from abbreviations and other "compression schemes". "Goodbye" essentially comes from "God be with ye".
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine our surprise when we pulled up to a petrol station near London and saw a sign that said, "No naked lights!"
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was taught that Posh came from the reservations for the best cabins on a ship - Port Out Starboard home. Don't know if it's true but I like the story.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter was four years old when we moved to London. One day we were at a museum called "Pollock's Toy Museum", and it was restroom time. I asked the girl at the counter where the bathroom was, and she looked at me with a very puzzled look. She finally asked if we wanted the Lu (not sure of spelling), and I said if it's got a toilet in it then that's what we want.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohhhh...i thought she had us pegged as freeloaders who were just here for the "nosh". (i know, that was a stretch.)

the one that had me going as i settled into north carolina was hearing local dancers asking each other if they "wanted to shag".

i quickly learned that is the name of a pop dance, performed to what's called "beach music"...which has nothing to do with the Beach Boys.

it also provided a long and quite funny routine for a visiting stand-up comic from the UK who made a catch phrase out of the response, "yes...I...DO!"
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chrissy wrote:
She finally asked if we wanted the Lu (not sure of spelling),


That would be the loo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Origin: "Gardez Loo" was the shout given in times of old, before public sewers existed, just before you emptied the contents of your Chamber Pot out of the window and into the street below. A bit like "Fore" on the golf course, only messier and smellier for those who didn't heed the cry!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles,

Thank you for putting a big smile on my face today!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles Nove wrote:
A bit like "Fore" on the golf course,


In that case, should they not have yelled, "One" or "Two?" Gasp
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The British have a word for it.

The British word for toilet, "loo", derives from the French "garde a l'eau!" it means ("watch out for the water!") In medieval Europe people had little conception of hygiene and threw the contents of their chamber pots out the window into the street below.
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