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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: Is this too much to ask of a VO talent? |
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I have a client new to VO who's working hard to build his reel and client base.
His latest project is working to video, replacing the audio track of a Realtor's video home tour with his own, re-encoding, and sending back the video.
I think it could be a great gig, and he said they have a lot of work. However, they need quick turn around and sending a video each time will be slooow. Plus, I think its nuts that he should have to deal with the video side of things. Isn't it appropriate that he get the audio and just replace and let THEM sew it all back together?
Wouldn't that put him in the position of Producing as well as voicing?
They're excuse is he needs the cues from the video, but I'm not buying it.
Would love your input on this! _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Diane Maggipinto Spreading Snark Worldwide

Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 6679 Location: saul lay seetee youtee
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Is this too much to ask of a VO talent? |
yes
Quote: | Isn't it appropriate that he get the audio and just replace and let THEM sew it all back together? |
yes
Quote: | Wouldn't that put him in the position of Producing as well as voicing? |
yes
Of course, it depends on how he reads the script for easy editing/remove and replace. But actually, regardless, they ought to be able to have him read the script and hit the cues or pause enough, so they can drop in the new audio.
Otherwise, sounds like a lot more than VO in which your friend is engaged! _________________ sitting at #8, though not as present as I'd like to be. Hello!
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Mandy Nelson MMD

Joined: 07 Aug 2008 Posts: 2911 Location: Wicked Mainah
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that it is too much unless he's being compensated for it. The video dub work I do requires that they send me the script with the time cues already on it, then I can match those and send them a beautiful file they can then sync up on their own. Their video peeps know how to do that stuff. I have them send me the video, too, so that I can make sure it all lines up, if it really requires that.
A client coming in tomorrow actually has me label every file separately so their vid person can put each line exactly where it needs to go and take care of the pacing on that end.
That, however, is just my experience. _________________ 006 member of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Mic. Bonded by sound.
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Claire Dodin Club 300

Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 392 Location: Sunny LA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I work the same way as Mandy, with time codes.
Or, if it's dubbing of an English dialogue, they send me the video, I extract the audio and record whilst listening to the English. During editing, I time it exactly to the English (visually with the English sound wave), then I send them back the French audio file. (not video, all they have to do is paste it back together as the audio is synched)
It's very easy to do.
I would not add it to the video myself as it would block my computer for hours, video encoding is very slow and demanding on the computer. _________________ www.clairedodin.com |
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KaraEdwards M&M

Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 2374 Location: Behind a mic or camera, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I just had to do this for a videogame translation to English. Had to match the timing, etc. I was paid as a VO, then paid a lovely (and quite nice) fee for the studio time to edit and place properly in the PT session.
It all depends if this is something he wants to do, and if he'll be fairly compensated for it.
(Otherwise known as: what Mandy said) _________________ Threadjackers local 420
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Lance Blair M&M

Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 2281 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Most real estate gigs aren't very high paying. I'd tell your friend to flee. Sounds like a lot of busy work for your friend whereas they should be spending that time working towards getting better clients. _________________ Skype: globalvoiceover
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georgethetech The Gates of Troy

Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 1878 Location: Topanga, CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's having second thoughts after I explained to him the process to actually do what his client expects of him. I agree with you completely, though. _________________ If it sounds good, it is good.
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Bruce Boardmeister

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 7973 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Everything but the sewing it back together and transmitting it back sounds kosher to me if he finds it easy to do. If he's not killing himself financially, lower paying work early in one's VO career is still pay and good experience.
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Living Culture Contributore Level V

Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 189 Location: Taipei
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: |
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That sounds like a crazy request.
Besides the reasons already stated. Video dubbing is done by specialised people with specialised software. Why would the realtor guy assume the VO artist has the necessary tools? Adding the audio and re-encoding the video in some freeware download a will not give him the quality matching the pro software the video guys use.
This would be kinda like giving the video to video dubbing people and asking them to please have one of their gophers read the script before encoding.
That said, I would do it just to get experience in that field. It can never hurt to add to your abilities. |
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davidmonteath Lucky 700

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 755 Location: Buckinghamshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:51 am Post subject: |
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+1 on all of these.
I have had clients try this and its always more hassle than its worth.
My advice, do it if you have a weekend with nothing else to do and you are trapped inside the house by a bear, otherwise tell them that you are happy to do the audio but if they want it done to picture to go ahead and book a dubbing suite and you will happily go there.
Sorry George, I know this wasn't 'you' but I was getting tangled up with my first and third person.
Congrats again on Ella.  _________________ www.davidmonteath.com
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