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How to survive as a Voice Overist in the big people's world
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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: How to survive as a Voice Overist in the big people's world Reply with quote

Kimmy rushes into the kitchen at 3.40pm; her mother knew this because she glanced at the clock on the cooker. The eight old daughter of a professional artist was eager to show the fruits of her labours.

"Look! I did this for you" she handed Mum a large sheet of paper still damp in parts. It was a watercolour painting. Mother looked and thought for a moment.

"It's a little naive. Where's the form, the balance, the structure? Sorry. I just don't see the passion or feel you're trying to say anything through this work. The house is boxy yet is not cubist, the animal is Dali-esque in a very simplistic way." Kimmy looks at her painting, shrugs her shoulders and proceeds to use a magnet to stick it to the door of the fridge. "Honey" asks Mum, "would you like me to make you something to eat?"

"Good grief woman NO! Your cooking sucks!" shouts Kimmy over her shoulder as she goes into the sitting room to watch TV. She doesn't notice her mother's knees buckle as she burst into tears.

Grown ups aren't resilient and are seldom honest. To get ahead and to survive BE 8.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep...don't take this biz personally.
You get the gig? Great!
You don't? Oh well, move on to next one.

SOMETIMES more easily said than done, but it usually works for me. Laugh

Thanks Philip!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actors were once described to me as people who are still playing under a card table with a sheet over it...pretending it's a fort, or a cave, or a car, whatever. I'm afraid I resemble that remark.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philip,

Thanks for the reminder this morning that "it's not about me."
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love that, Bruce!
I recently found a picture of me in the fort I built in our living room when I was about ....8!
Another reason not to grow up! Laugh
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I like that word picture, too Bruce; especially now that Eric and I are using a card table every day as our temporary dining room table while we're getting our old house in Pittsburgh set back up. I'll have to crawl down under there one of these days and remember.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ERIC!
I want a picture of your Dad under the table!!!!! Laugh

Awww, C'mon, Bob!!!!!! Kiss
It could be a new VO-BB tradition! cool ....& we wouldn't even have to drink to do it! Inoccent
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz,

Be careful what you wish for.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to stick VO work on the fridge.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cyber equivalent is Facetube.

"Mum LOOK WHAT I JUST DID!!"

Comments

Yeah...whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I grow up I still don't know what I want to be.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My goal is to avoid growing up until I'm old enough to be in my second childhood then I won't remember what it was I was trying to avoid.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brutal feedback is good. That which doesn't kill me makes me frickin' spiffy, yadda yadda yadda...

It's when people can't be bothered to critique you and don't hire you that it's an issue.

In other words, a tough parent is better than a silent parent.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Yeah...whatever.



i had no idea that philip knows my mother.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance Blair wrote:
Brutal feedback is good. That which doesn't kill me makes me frickin' spiffy, yadda yadda yadda...

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Um, yeah, that sort of sounds good in theory and I agree most of the time, but then again, I've seen way too many things on Youtube that are pretty good and the comments below are nothing but snotty reminders of what jealousy can do to a person.

One of the clients I work with posted a project on Youtube that was actually quite a nice little two-minute discussion of a physical principle in astronomy. The comments were anything but mature.

So, there's a diff... brutal but pointed feedback is useful. Feedback that consists of "U sux, this sux, eff you" is not exactly on point.
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